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    Default Re: Biggest Shit Test I've Ever Encountered! Advice?

    Quote Originally Posted by fredyyy View Post
    very cool post.

    But I have a question for you "Maverick1027" when you said:

    I'm assuming your target was the more attractive friend. However, you were talking to the other friend and throwing negs at your target. This way you should who you are interested in and at the same time you make sure the friend won't cockblock that correct?
    In a manner of speaking ... yes. But, it's more to win over the group (in this case, the target and her friend). If everyone likes me, isolating the target will be easier. Granted, I did not Isolate the target this night - it was my biggest flaw. What daffy said is accurate:

    Quote Originally Posted by daffyff View Post
    Hot women, or even slightly above average women, are used to getting attention from men. So giving a woman your attention is putting you in the "just another guy" box. It's boring.

    What maverick did was flip the situation on her. Being ignored is one of the worst things psychologically (it's the #1 reason we are all here learning this stuff). The hotter the woman, the less ok she is with this. He is pretty much saying "you have to earn my attention." And she works for it! But he negs her. The message again is "you need to work harder for my attention." It's a challenge. Women like a challenge. Simple as that (and yet infinitely complex).

    Quote Originally Posted by fredyyy View Post
    Also, I.M.Mortal, your post is extremely helpful specially when you broke the process into small steps. however, you didn't mention how do you isolate a girl from her friends before going through the steps you mentioned?
    Like I mentioned before, I did fail to isolate the target. It just didn't even cross my mind and I'm a bit embarrassed by it. In retrospect, I should have done it. At any rate, I.M.Mortal is spot on with this advice in this thread.

    To answer your question, Fredyyy, there are several ways to isolate the target once you've won over the group. Say things like:

    "Okay, so -target name- and I like each other, we're going to step over here and have a chat for a minute while you guys talk."

    "I'm going to borrow your friend for just a minute. You don't mind do you?"

    "I hope you don't mind, but I need to talk to your friend alone for a minute. We'll be right back."

    The key for this to work is you have to have made it to the point where you've been accepted by the group and she is giving IOIs. This shouldn't take long, in most situations though. In fact, the longer it takes, the less likely you are to succeed. The MOST IMPORTANT thing to remember is, it is MUCH HARDER to isolate the target in a set like this one (only 2 girls - if I isolate the target, the friend is now alone ... that's not cool and the target is far less likely to allow me to isolate her because she doesn't want to leave her friend alone). That's why it's important to have a wing. I can't even blame me not isolating her on not having a wing. I had a wingwoman with me that night. I just dropped the ball. :-/

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    Default Re: Biggest Shit Test I've Ever Encountered! Advice?

    Maverick1027, thank you very much a lot of lessons to learn from this post!!

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