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Thread: I got blown out by Lara Croft!

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    Default I got blown out by Lara Croft!

    I had chicks checking me out all night and fat chicks grabbing my ass but yes I got blown in 3 minutes by a 10. I hate my life. I am so bad with 10's but I have a 99.9% closing rate on HB9's as they almost never turn me down. I think part of the issue is my old AFC stuff pops up when I approach 10's, I mean when I am gaming 9's I just become totally present and act the way I want to...letting loose. But with 10's I just feel they never give me enough attention and are too hard to PING. 9's just ping like crazy and I feel like they are fighting for my attention and practically begging for me to ask them out. I have a 9 right now who never ignores me. Whenever I text her she ALWAYS texts me back. We hang out whenever I want. Whereas with 10's I am getting shot down before I can even say "Go!". Yes I normally don't hit up chicks at concerts but I went to a concert last night and hit up a 10. Just had to. I got blown out hard though. I made her laugh on my opener "Hey Lara Croft...blah blah blah" (she was in a very unique costume) but she was expecting me to make her laugh more and it just kinda went downhill from there. Normally all I need is an opener but I think I had the totally wrong mindset going in not like I do normally since I felt no sense of entitlement even though she was checking me out.

    I got destroyed by the BF rejection like always before I could even close as I knew it was time and I sat around like a douche extending the interaction of me qualifying myself. I usually never qualify myself but I was qualifying myself with my outfit, my stuff, and my tatts which afterwards seemed like I was just trying too hard. What I learned though is I will definitely try to go home with a 10 next time as the 1st priority and getting her number as a last resort.


    Well anyway I had a date to this concert with an HB9 and she totally bailed on me at the last minute so I got screwed both ways. But I did realize something that I always n-close which takes a long time to get up in there. So I realized from now on a chick like Lara Croft instead of saying "Let me get your number?" I am going to be replacing that with "Are you taking me home, what are you doing later?" I will still N-close but on these chicks I can't live without I will go for the goal. Sucks but there are plenty more 10's. That's only 3 this year. So time to get to number 4. But yeah I see 9's like everywhere and in fact I have a date with an HB9 next weekend.

    Well being that I have approached 120 girls since in the Game in 2012 and only encountered 9 HB10's. But I have met well over 30 HB9's. So I have a lot of practice closing HB9's and experiencing a lot of success. However out of the 9 HB10's I have talked to only N-closed one. So it is uber hard to get at it and maybe it is due to the inexperience or lack of practice. I think they are so uncommon it's hard to get adjusted to talking to them. I just see them as a rarity and it puts me in scarcity mindset so yeah I guess you could say it is a sticking point and I don't know how to get past it until I figure out a way. I can't half-ass it and I think I totally half-assed it with Lara Croft because I was expecting her like the HB9's to be all over me and when she didn't I just never brought anything to the table. It made me realize I was in control of the entire outcome and conversation with the HB10. She wasn't putting anything in but I wasn't bringing it and weak game killed my chances.
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    Default Re: I got blown out by Lara Croft!

    Only reason I can think of why you're always getting blown out by HB10's is because you're not used to being around them therefore you try something new instead of sticking to what works best and it all backfires...

    Another thing is you may be comfortable being around HB9's which helps you but at the same time backfires as you say you could have hb9's begging you to ask them out but yet a hb10 blows you out...

    When you open a hb10 how many negs do you use ? I'm curious cause I have heard 3-4 and they change....
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    Default Re: I got blown out by Lara Croft!

    Not every approach will be a success. My advice would be to forget about the HB10, or just learn from that experience for next time when you approach a HB10. It may take some time.

    Make sure to remember to make her qualify herself, and not the other way around.

    If she says she has a BF, I'd say "And I have a dog yet she doesn't mind me having fun with other people."

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    Default Re: I got blown out by Lara Croft!

    Man, thats just heartbreaking. But at least you got that far with her. I remember a time I was meeting a woman for lunch and she was late and this bomb ass blonde 10 in scrubs with a pile of medical books was there at the bar.

    She attempted so many times to make eye contact and get me to notice her. My brain screamed at me "WTF are you doing?? TALK TO HER DUMBASS!"

    ...BUT I didn't, I rationalized it away as "what if my other date walks in on me with this other chick?" Yes.. I know.. it is my most shameful moment in game. I have yet to come across another woman of such quality... it breaks my heart. Lol

    So good on you man. All you can do is learn, put it behind you and push on.

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    Default Re: I got blown out by Lara Croft!

    Yeah word out. The problem is I had to leave and I saw her and I was thinking "give it 10 minutes and she is gone but she'll stick around if she wants to meet me." The reason being is I made it obvious I was checking her out to my buddy.

    Came back in 10 minutes and she was waiting there like clockwork. So then I moved around and her body always turned towards me so I knew I was good to go on the Set. I slowly worked my way in there cuz there was times she was flirting with other guys and I would have low value going in. So I moved in when they disappeared. She pinged on my opener but I didn't pump myself up my frame was. "I don't want to talk to girls at a concert". I even said this to my buddy so I screwed myself over.

    So when I got and and she pinged it was a boring conversation which again was within my control but I felt too good to hit on chicks there so likely she played the BF card to get rid of me. I learned though to start pulling 10's and going home with them instead of going for their number since that creates a long game situation where I have to date them and spend all this money and time investing. So I figure hit the ground running from now on. I never back down from a 10 they just really intimidate me but I am improving. So far opened 2/9 HB10's correctly and I used to always be needy so I am 2/2 on my openers just need better frame control, better pre-game, and better closing. I am going to follow my ABC's with 10's now and always be closing.

    I am more upset about the 10 blowing me out than getting stood up for my date. But whatever. I need more time with them. I used to always say "what's up?" So my openers are getting better and the rest will follow. Will be interesting to see how I improve with 10's over the years since on average I meet only 5 a year. But the 9's throw themselves at me constantly. Talking to a 9 online right now doing exactly that. Post about it in another section.
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    Default Re: I got blown out by Lara Croft!

    Quote Originally Posted by kylemc View Post
    Only reason I can think of why you're always getting blown out by HB10's is because you're not used to being around them therefore you try something new instead of sticking to what works best and it all backfires...

    Another thing is you may be comfortable being around HB9's which helps you but at the same time backfires as you say you could have hb9's begging you to ask them out but yet a hb10 blows you out...

    When you open a hb10 how many negs do you use ? I'm curious cause I have heard 3-4 and they change....
    First yes SiliconMagician it is truly heartbreaking but also encouraging. I will open a HB10 anywhere and opened one in Wal-Mart since I will never let it pass me by. But I only open 9's when I am in my element and out sarging. I would say and let me speak plainly here. I would say HB10's are generally the worst to game. For one we know abundance mindset where you can be working a couple HB9's in a room you become less needy by default for building state and having options. Abundance mindset or "warming up" doesn't work on HB10's. I warm up all night and still get tongue tied.

    But to get to your statement about negs here in a second. Basically 10's are the worst to play because they buy into my frame completely and because I am usually sucking sh!t it goes to hell instantly. HB9's don't buy into my frame they try to qualify themselves and give me tons of IOI's and validation. The other problem with 10's is they never validate me. My dhv's come off as me qualifying myself. Where I talk to 9's about my tatts and they get all excited. So there are huge differences. The other thing and into the NEGS. It doesn't matter. You can heartless prick open them or hopeless romantic open them and it will only work based on congruence.

    One thing 10's do utterly go nuts about is congruence and because I have glimmers of it at times they eat it up then it goes sour by me losing it right when I get a tiny seed of validation. My NEGs are pretty cold like hey nice ass because I am not a nice guy that got a HB10 playing into my frame for 30 min! But I lost due to of course over-qualifying myself. So in the end hb10's are the game winners so going for their number as priority #1 is not going to fly. You have to have to pull or insta-date. Because they are that hot you have to build comfort right away or you will be completely forgotten the next day unless you try and get her number instead.

    HB9's always ping well on N-closes and 9 for 9 right now. However again asking for a HB10's number it feels so needy and unauthentic. I haven't tried to SNL game a HB10 but I am starting to feel that is the only way to win with them like they WILL not be long gamed. In fact Lara Croft was completely unphased when I told her let's party tonight! And I NEVER give that much opportunity to a girl. Like let me get your number and walk away. That's how I usually roll out but from now I will have to pull the 10 so I am going to have to put myself in overload jumping around pumping state in the room then approaching with true intention of taking her home. I will stick to my tried and true methods of long gaming HB9's by n-closing cuz it is so easy. But everything is hard with 10's so without overdoing it gonna have to pump state right in front of her then move in for the kill. We'll see how it goes but yeah I doubt I'll see another 10 till next year. So talking to 10's doesn't matter cuz they are more like finding a mythical unicorn and you have to bring your A game plus you gotta be horny as hell to insta-date them or pull or else you'll lose for sure. The 10 I did n-close was horny as hell but it was too much for me so I have to be ready! And yes it was the 10's usually wanting to go home with me but being too stupid like oh play hard to get or go for the number those were the worst loses...
    When you let go of your feelings you can really then embrace your surroundings
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