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    Thumbs up Unintended 100% fail rate crash n burn

    This isn't your usual field report, I didn't k-close nor f-close anyone, I failed miserably with every single target, just an unintended crash n burn that happened to me tonight haha

    So my crashing and burning started in a club, I'd just like to state that, I don't know about the clubs in your country's or city's but in mine - they are extremely loud, you can be 1 inch away from someone's ear, screaming at the top of your lungs to the point where your vocal cords decide to fail on you, and the person still doesn't hear clearly what you're saying.

    I had great success with approaching a 4-set (1-2months ago), asking if they don't mind if I dance with them, dancing with one of them, asking her to "show her best dance moves"(damn this devil's one-liner) and got amazing success, added it to my repertory and didn't use that phrase up until this night. I approached pretty much every girl this night (only at the club) with that exact line by screaming at the top of my lungs into their ear, for them to "show me their best dance moves" and failed horribly, result - they turned around, some of them only said "no", and one girl made an X with her arms, before showing pure disinterest in me. I didn't creep up on any of them by doing something as stupid as dancing a few minutes next to them and only them "making a move". I think I managed my fundamentals pretty good, had a great time with my friends, my approach line was fucking terrible but I had a kick out of it every time. I was in the club for a few hours, failed every single time and every time I'd see someone worth approaching I'd just think "hmm, have they rejected me yet?". After failing on a 2set, I noticed them dancing near me and my friend once again, and what caught my eye this time, was that they were wearing matching stripped black and white long-sweaters (what I failed to notice before), I approach the same girl I did before
    -How many zebra's did you guys kill to make those sweaters?
    -We're not like that *turns away with disgust and starts whispering something into her friends ear*
    after realizing, that due to my loud shouting in-order for her to hear me, she couldn't notice the playfulness in my words, that was it. I realized that this day is a crash n burn and that I should embrace the fuck out of it. I know I would have gotten different results if I would have approached differently and NOT with the same opener but I didn't care that much, I knew I was destined to fail. I failed on a couple of more girls with the exact same method but, with much more high energy (cause of the laughter my failure has caused me), before I told my friend that we should get going and that we're staying for 10more minutes. A 2-set started dancing near us, I noticed that he and this other girl glanced at each-other, and since at this point I clearly didn't give that many you know what's - I squeezed them together, by pulling them close next to each other, they started chit-chatting, dancing and finally he isolated her. Only me and her friend (HB8) was left, I approached her after they left
    -Aww, they make such a cute couple
    -...
    -Come on, let's dance
    We started dancing, she was okay with it, and because I'm a mastermind genius I decided to win her heart by saying "show me your best dance moves", she looked at me weird and said no (What I noticed at this point was that they probably think that I mean twerking and NOT challenging them to a dance-off). Some guy approached her, she completely blocked him, pushed him away with her hand without even looking at him, it looked so brutal I can't even put it to words.. She starts showing him with gestures that she's here with me, so he backs away showing his "sincere" apologies, for interrupting us.
    -1 word, OUCH..
    -I saw him dancing with other girls before..
    -Ohh.. well yeah, he's a bad boy, let's find you a good one, *I put my hand around her shoulder and point to some wimpy-ass guy* what about him?
    -No haha
    I get her to come with me to a more silent spot in the club where I don't have to shout (that much..) for her to hear me, and because she didn't seem like she was having fun (even before she was approached), I call her out on that by making an impression of her "having a good time" she seemed to like it a lot, said "no! why does everyone say that??" with high energy and genuine laughter (definite IOI's). A few moments later my friend approach and he was ready to go because he got his targets number, I didn't even know my target's name, I didn't even have time to ask for her number, he jumped right in mid-sentence and said "give him your number, we got to go" (more playfully than it may sound), she didn't, she was resistant, not to the point where it was a solid NO, but to a point where she wanted me to "work for it", her friend gave my friend my target's facebook, because she seemed to like me, I didn't ask for it, I even told them that they shouldn't force anything but.. it is what it is, my friend wanted what's best for me haha so I ended up having it anyways (80% sure I won't text her though).

    So yeah, most definitely the WORST sarging day I've ever had in my experience as a PUA, got rejected by 7-10sets, the girl I actually didn't screw up in the first sentence didn't even give me her fb, her friend did, I take it almost as a pitty reward for my shitty performance tonight.

    But, I definitely needed this, this really helped a lot some aa issues I have, showed me that you can and you will screw up badly no matter how good you think you are, and what success you had in the past. As I've stated, I didn't intend this day to become a crash n burn, but it ended up as one, and after today, the motivation I got for improving my game is not something I can put to words.. All I can say is - I'm glad I went out tonight haha. I made a thread about how you have to love your failures, and believe me when I say - momma' didn't raise no hypocrite!

    -Alergy

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    Default Re: Unintended 100% fail rate crash n burn

    What is the point of this post?

    And you're the guy that people listen to around here?

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    Default Re: Unintended 100% fail rate crash n burn

    1. Sharing my worst experience to show that failing is not something people should be afraid of.
    2. Yes.
    got any more questions on which you'd like to be enlightened?

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    Default Re: Unintended 100% fail rate crash n burn

    You have not "enlightened," me on anything, nor do I think you have the ability to do so.

    Are you even good in bed?

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    Default Re: Unintended 100% fail rate crash n burn

    You're post is pretty funny, everybody has those times that they just are on the mission and fail hahah
    But thats what makes it fun! good to hear your not taking it personally.
    A good trick is to use your phone if your having a hard time trying to talk in the club.
    Apart from that, keep at it son!

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    Default Re: Unintended 100% fail rate crash n burn

    @redstar1324 is that why you've acknowledged that I'm right on the flaws in your game over 10 times? And for the good in bed thing, why do you wanna know? Are you going to ask me out?

    @Jason thanks, I laughed my buttocks off, wanted to make this post as funny as it was in person, and yeah - the next time I go out I'm definitely making some changes haha

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    Default Re: Unintended 100% fail rate crash n burn

    After reading this post, I will probably not listen to you

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    Default Re: Unintended 100% fail rate crash n burn

    Thumbs up for you being honest and not exaggerating your stories even by 0.1%. A couple of tips (personal opinion):

    1. If club is loud try to focus on non-verbal. It seems that you are trying verbal game in a very loud environment which isn't workimg well as you can see.

    2. When was the last time you made approaches like these? It seems that you are taking long breaks in between. Anyhow, even if not, you are probably not In State but a lil consistency will do.

    Keep approaching. The post was really fun to read. I can even picture the girl in my mind pushing away that guy and he giving "sincere apologies". Lol

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    Default Re: Unintended 100% fail rate crash n burn

    yeah it has been about a month since I last went to a club, great advice on the whole non-verbal approach in loud enviroments, definitely gonna' try it out the next time I go to a club, looking forward to it, I'll be sure to post my next field-report, 100% sure it's not going to be as bad as this one haha

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    Default Re: Unintended 100% fail rate crash n burn

    So yeah, most definitely the WORST sarging day I've ever had in my experience as a PUA, got rejected by 7-10sets, the girl I actually didn't screw up in the first sentence didn't even give me her fb, her friend did, I take it almost as a pitty reward for my shitty performance tonight.
    hahahahahahaha you call that a failure?!?!? seriously that is not what I would consider a bad night.

    A. you talked to plenty of women.

    b. not every woman rejected you completely. (you could have been that guy who got rejected without saying a word to her)

    c. you had a friend with you who could help you laugh about it with.

    D. you managed to Isolate your target and you guys probably could have taken her and her friend on an insta date to another location had your friend not settled for a number and dragged you off.

    this is no failure. failure is not leaving the house on a Saturday night. failure is getting drunk alone and not talking to anyone.

    you did just fine given the circumstances. you don't always win, but that doesn't mean your a loser.


    some things you can improve upon:

    1. avoid the dancefloor unless you're dancing with girls you brought with you/ talked to for at least a half hour. almost no one gets laid by dancing with randoms.

    2. pick the right venues (if they are available) just because the loud dance club has a longer line outside, does not mean its the ideal place to go.

    3. telling a girl you just met to "show me your best moves" sounds like your asking her to participate in a snuff film. don't use it unless its on a girl who is more familiar with you.

    4. if you are in a loud club, try meeting women outside/smoking areas, at the drink bar, outside the bathroom or in a quieter area if its available.

    5. if you do have to work a venue that is loud as F*ck, isolate and insta-date. (as in, get her by herself, and move across the street to a resturaunt/diner/ quiet bar/ any other venue more conductive to comfort building. )

    6. never settle for a number. girls go to clubs to have fun, get drunk and hook up. plenty of them are quite disappointed when a guy just gets her number and leaves. they want to be seduced that night.

    7. lastly, don't beat yourself up about it. its all a learning experience, we all have nights like this.


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