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    Default Re: Messed up with an older woman

    Hi Hands

    I always 'Flirt' with every Woman I meet, regardless of whether I fancy her or not and some of my Favorite little ploys that I use on 'Checkout Girls' are these.

    Most of them wear 'Name Tags' So I would look intently at her 'Name Tag' and then into her eyes and say 'Do you mind if I call you Amber' (assuming her name Tag says Amber) She will say something like 'No I don't mind at all' to which I reply 'Ok well if want me to Call you Amber, then you better give me your Number'

    She won't be expecting a 'left field' line, like that one! No success yet but I'll keep on trying.

    My best one Ever! was when I was accidently overcharged for a reduced item.

    When I went back to the Store, they asked if I remembered the name of the Checkout Girl.

    I said 'No' but I can describe her.

    Blue eyes, Blonde hair, slim as a pencil, cute as paint but I don't want a refund, as much as I want her number!

    I think they must have told her, as the next time that I saw her, She was Blushing like a Traffic Light (Lol)
    The Power in a Relationship always goes to the one who cares the least

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    Default Re: Messed up with an older woman

    Thats pretty awesome man, I might steal some of those lines! I don't often use lines, and when I do its in the form of a joke, but yours are great!

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    Default Re: Messed up with an older woman

    You're Welcome Bro

    Try this one, if you're wearing a jumper or jacket.

    Walk up to a girl while you're stroking your sleeve, with a very confused look on your face and say 'If you can guess the name of this material, then I will buy you a drink because no one has even come close to getting it right.

    (girls love quizzes and this will disengage her logical mind)

    She will say something like 'I think it must be wool' and you say no you're Wrong, 'This is Boyfriend Material'

    Hopefully She will burst out laughing at this Cheesy Pick up line and then you can build on that.

    Good Luck.
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    Default Re: Messed up with an older woman

    Ok, you guys are hijacking my thread a bit.

    So anyway, what I want to know is how can I prevent a woman from going dark on me in the future(I guess you could call it flaking but we didn't have any specific plans for a date as it never even progressed to that point).

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    Default Re: Messed up with an older woman

    Make sure shes attracted to you, get two to three IOIs. Be an alpha male while in her presence, and continue to be alpha on the phone, or texting her. When you plan something keep it as casual as possible, and have plans in case she bails, some times girls will do this right before the date as a shit test. The main thing is make sure there is attraction.

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    Default Re: Messed up with an older woman

    What specifically do you mean by "be alpha?" Could you please give me some specific examples?

    Also, what should I say or do if she tries to cancel at the last minute?

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    Default Re: Messed up with an older woman

    There is alot of little things that add to an Alpha male, or at least the dominant presence in a situation, alot of it is covered in this forum, and there are lots of videos addressing it on YouTube, just go out and do some home work.

    As far as specifics, its easier to point out what you did that gave away your dominance. When she was coming on to you, and showing interest, she was giving you power, or leverage, and you rejected it in suggesting friendship, while it seemed like she wanted more. In that case she was giving away power, and accepting you as the dominant presence. You were identified as dominant because you had the choice.

    When you called her, and expressed interest in seeing her you were giving away some of your power. Your execution while expressing your interest, however, was your major flaw, you know this, I'm just pointing out why. The message you left made you seem weak, and so she most likely lost interest. There is a chance that something happened out of your control, but after reading your message, that's most likely not the case.
    Where you were asking for permission to see her again, the Alpha thing would have been giving her a command to see you.
    Identifying yourself twice enforces that you feel you are forgettable, lack of confidence is not Alpha.
    I would have said 'Hey this is Mike, I hope your new place is all you expected, lets get together, and you can show me your cat.'(there are more assertive ways of saying this, at 2:30 am, this is all I got.) What ever her answer, the idea is to be the one who dictates what happens next, she may give you options, but you make the calls. This is what I know of being Alpha. I've made my own mistakes in the recent past, so we're all learning.

    If she cancels, then play it cool, be unaffected by her decision, and go on with your night. The date is for your enjoyment, she just happens to be a part of it, so you'll have to play it out as such.

    If she no show no call, that's different, I'd text her after and apologize for not being able to make it, or something to that degree.

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    Default Re: Messed up with an older woman

    Why would you text and apologize if she is the one who couldn't make it. That doesn't sound very alpha.

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    Default Re: Messed up with an older woman

    As for me saying I just want to be friends. That's a false disqualifier and I see nothing wrong it. Women do that crap to men all the time. It's their way of putting up a barrier. Here, I'm just saying that I'm not going to assume anything that hasn't happened yet. I don't feel she made it 100 percent clear she was interested in me romantically so I just said that as way of testing her(or maybe making her feel at ease). I don't consider that to be a mistake at all. Anyway, it's all a moot point now anyway since she's done and it's time for me to move on to the next one. I am willing to learn from my mistakes and move on.

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    Default Re: Messed up with an older woman

    You're not really apologizing, you're telling her that that you didn't make it either, since she didn't show she can only assume that you did. You don't have to apologize, but you might come across as a dick, and women don't actually like men because they are dicks, they like them inspite of it. Being Alpha doesn't mean you're a dick all the time, it means you're a dick when you are displeased. So by doing this you will have side stepped the shit test, with out looking like a chump by showing up to something that obviously isn't important enough to her.

    Disqualifying is fine, but this is getting into a grey area. I wouldn't disqualify a woman who is chasing after me already, if she was acting snotty, then sure, it works the same way as a neg, the point is to bring them down a bit. But if shes already telling you she wants to hook up and crap, disqualifying her may actually shut her off, especially the friend disqualifier, because it is real. This is grey because all I have to go by is your post, I can't read body language, nor do I have access to tone, so what you did may be right, and it may be wrong, only you know which.


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