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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Debate with myself

    Quote Originally Posted by tcomea2 View Post
    Ok between this and the AFCMETRO thing im gonna venture to say your not from Sydney are you?!
    sydney is the only international city in australia
    i am born and bred in melbourne. i know every street in every suburb around this self important little town. 4 million pop. i basically own this city. police know i am mad and smarter than them and that they are partly responsible for my brothers death, yet i am legit so i have a green light.

    my life rocks. i get paid by the government to research and write, do this, pick up chicks... the system owed me so bad some years back that i get paid to walk around my house in my undies

    i feel like a rock star who just needs a drummer and a bass player and the government is picking up the tab. i even went to court as a witness and the judge was honoured to have me in his courtroom. needless to say i gave the opposition barrister a lesson in being an honourable gentleman and trashed him. the judge told him to stop wasting time and sit down.

    i just woke up to some spirit in me that will not be dominated AND LOVES BABES some time ago. my life is awesome (except for the lows).

    yeah, sydney chicks rock. melbourne is a stuck up self important place. very right wing and obsessed with sport. melbourne is in the state of victoria. i know the whole state pretty well and my resources are also in brisbane in the state of queensland

    what state are you in?

  2. #22
    ragr Guest

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    Update:

    So she replied like 7 hours later saying "sorry hun, just got out of work". I read the message later and i didnt respond untill the next day. She didnt respond that time.

    she went to see a movie with her friend a few days ago. and i went to see the same movie the day after they saw it and posted something about it on facebook. Her friend replied: "why didnt you go with X (the girl im interested in) and I?"..I didnt answer her since it was obvious that they didnt let me know.

    Now today her friend txt me if i wanted to go with X and her to the beach. But, why is her friend inviting me instead of X? should i ask her friend or something if X is mad at me or something? cuz idk what is going on. :S

  3. #23
    ragr Guest

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    update:

    So she replied like 7 hours later saying "sorry hun, just got out of work". I read the message later and i didnt respond untill the next day. She didnt respond that time.

    she went to see a movie with her friend a few days ago. and i went to see the same movie the day after they saw it and posted something about it on facebook. Her friend replied: "why didnt you go with X (the girl im interested in) and I?"..I didnt answer her since it was obvious that they didnt let me know.

    Now today her friend txt me if i wanted to go with X and her to the beach. But, why is her friend inviting me instead of X? should i ask her friend or something if X is mad at me or something? cuz idk what is going on. :S

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    This sounds like grade school game. Friends asking out insteed of the target and whatnot. How old is this chick.

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    she is 20. I am 20 too.

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    Default Re: Debate with myself

    her friend may become attracted to you. Especally if she knows your into her friend. Its the triangle affect. Happens. BUt this can also be used to your advantage. Go out with them work the friend and watch your targets reaction.

    Like i said before, it soudnms like you are getting hung up on this one chick. I say you give it one last bold go at it, and if you get shot down move on. Time to reach down make sure you still have a pair and use them. Enough with this banter back and forth for weeks now. Ether be a PUA or be an AFCMETRO there is no inbetween.

  7. #27
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    yeah i am tired of this too. So should I be direct and talk to her and ask her about what she wants with me?

    I haven't been shot down by her in the only 2 times i have seen her since she broke up with her bf. What annoys me is that i like her, and when we are together is great, but when we are not is like she can care less about me.

    I don't want to rush things and fark up, but i really want to have an idea about what is really going on between us.

  8. #28
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    Update:

    about 2 days ago she texted me (lets call the girl i am trully interested in girl A). I texted back wit ha funny line, and she called me. we talked for about 5 minutes, and she didnt stop flirting with me and complimenting me. She said she saw some pictures of me, and that i looked hot, hot, hot. she said that like 4-5 times. she also said i was lame. i told her back she was lame. then she said "you made out with me, so now you are lame too". she also asked me what i'm doing yesterday to hang out, i coulndt say anything because she cut me off. she said "we better continue talking thru txt, these girls are too loud ( she was in her way to the movies with 2 friends).

    So yesterday i called her to "hang out" and she said she would call me back because at that time she had to go pick her sister up at school. she never called me back. Now I am not going to call her, text her, or look after her. I am done with her. what do you guys think?

    Today, her friend(lets call her girl x )(the one who invited me to the beach with them), invited me to a concert, and i said yes. I am going alone with her btw.
    The picture that the girl im interested in saw was from a previous night out with girl x and another friend (who I already made out with). And when taking the pictures she was like saying I looked too hot in the pictures. She even commented in 1 photo "(my name) you should look like this all the time, its an order!). then I replied " I can't look like that all the time, If I do you would fall in love with me and you would be much more annoying lol" she laughed and told me " I dont fall for pretty boys". JUst for more information girl x recently finished dating a guy she liked, and she called me and told me some details. She even asked me if i knew a good looking friend of mine to introduce him to her. I said "i am sorry, the only good looking man I know is me, and you said you dont fall for pretty boys, so what's up with that?", she said "yeah i don't fall for pretty boys, and that is the good part" (meaning she wants to have fun with pretty boys lol).

    So yeah girl x (girl A 's friend) invited me to a concert today. she called me and said she didnt wanted to go alone blah blah. And i have nothing else to do tonight so i am going. Btw girl x is an HB 8.5 lol.

    I am concerned about what attitude should i take tonight. I don't know if girl x is considering me as an option to "have fun" or I am just a friend. I know she is a friend of girl A, but girl A has disappointed me. It seems she is not taking me very seriously.

    I am physically attracted to girl X as well, but her friendship with girl A concerns me, and I am not sure about what to do.

    If something is unclear, please let me know..I know it is a lot of stuff.

    Every piece of advice is worth millions of dollars.

    Thanks guys.

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    lol ok well thats the thing. If girl A is not paying to much attention to you, its cause she is thinking about you and your not memorable. But then girl x is having fun talking to you and inviting you places but you have a foot in the friend zone. obviously she is somewhat attracted to you but sees you more as a friend. so what you need to do is get her to think of you sexually and want you. then you wont fall into girl x's friend zone. and as far as the friendship. girls love their friends but when it comes to guys they will leave out things from their friends if they like the guy. so if you can tell girl x something like "yeah i couldnt help but get attracted to you, cause your fun blah blah blah" somethings like that. but only do it if you feel its right or if she brings up her friend. Cause then you have the excuse. well im into you, she doesnt really catch my eye. So tonight, have fun, build rapport, build sexual Tension, get her thinking sexually and then try to kiss her and make out with her. I guarantee youll grab her cause she is comfortable around you and finds you interesting but you have to keep out of the friend zone. So go for kiss/ make out and more if you can. and the other girl, fuck her. Obviously she got out of a relationship and is doing the usually. testing the field and finding stuff in each guy that she likes and she doesnt see one guy as a potential boyfriend.. each guy just gives her something she needs. go for girl x. she is hot and interesting.

  10. #30
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    All right so things basically suck now. this is going to be a somewhat long post, but i really need everyone's help in here, thanks a lot.

    I went to the beach last sunday with a friend and girl X. Girl A was supposed to go but she had to work. I texted her:
    Me:I am at the beach. wish you were here"
    She: lol ok. when are we going to the beach?
    me: when are you free?
    she: this week!
    me: but what day are you free from work and stuff?
    she: this week

    I didnt respond to that i was like wtf.

    then she texted me later that night

    she: when are you free?
    me: i am going to be kind of busy next week, but i might be free on wednesday.

    she didnt respond.

    the next day she called me at like 11:30 pm. she was like hey! you have to come to my birthday, if you dont go it is going to suck, you really have to come, we are going to a restaurant saturday night and then i am talking to my mom to go to my house and then go to the beach all day sunday. and i was like i dont know, i found a new job and my schedule is a little confusing so i will let you know (i knew i was going, just wanted to make myself not that available). her tone of voice changed and i felt she was kind of dissapointed. she told me: i just got off from work all exited to invite you to my birthday and now you say you are not going, you suck". I told her: i told you i will let you know. she said: ok. i will elt you know tomorrow if i am free to go to the beach on wednesday.

    next day she texted me:

    she: are we going to the beach tomorrow?
    me: i dont know yet. i will call you later. i am working.

    then i received message from girl x: "are we going to the beach tomorrow cousin?"..this one took me by surprise because i didnt invte girl x. but anyways i told her i would let her know.

    we ended up going to the beach, with her friend, girl x. It was ok. girl a and me flirted a little bit. not too much. and then they invited me to a club that same night.

    girl A was like you should come. and i was like idk, maybe i have to work tomorrow morning.

    I ended up going to the club with a friend. In the club i was with girl A like all the time. we went outside the club a couple of times to take air, and while that we talked and i built very good rapport. the second time we went out she went directly to her car opened the trunk of the car and we sat there and cuddled and talked some more. at one point she told memg i think you are my soulmate or something". it was like 2 am and she saw our friends coming to her car. she then leaned towards me and gave me a kiss, the first kiss of the day. her friend was kind of drunk and was like i need a pool right now! is so hot in here! luckily, my friend has a pool in his house so they followed us there.

    A my friends house things got hot. i made out with girl A for like 1 hour and a half. I had in my mind the fact that she told me she was a virgin, so I was not very agressive like touching her ass or pussy. there was a moment when i leaned back and she stood op her chair and came to me so she was on top of me. I kissed her ear and she made a weird noise. i asked her: what happened? and she said that turns me on. I was like wtf is this virgin talking to me like this. she also began to touch my abs and stuff but my friend came out and said we had to leave.

    so saturday came up. she texted me to confirm if i was going and i told her yes. I bought her some Godaiva chocolates as a present. to be honest up at that point i thought my game was very solid. solid enough to "forget" about the other guy she was dating. at one point in the day i asked myself "what if she invites the other guy too. naahh, she wouldnt to that. that kind of things don't happen"

    guess who was sitting next to her at the restaurant's table when i arrived with my friends?

    the fucking guy who i suspected. i knew it was him because some random comments of him on her facebook. How could she invite both of us to her bday reunion? ridiculous. I decided to play it cool and as if nothing happened. as if I didnt know anything.

    the whole night was a nightmare. every time i approached her the other guy followed us. she was like back and forth with the both of us. at some point my friend told me: "the score is 8-3, and you are winning. Man I have never seen anything like this in my life". I felt as if someone threw me in an arena with a sword and shield fighting for her worthless attention. If you could turn pick up into a video game, it was like that night. at some points of the night I could see her from far with a "victim face" looking sad and worried, etc. I decided to hurt her conscious and approached her and told her: hey when we get out of here lets go to my car to give you your present", she looked at me as if i did something wrong and told me: "you even brought a present? I have to go to the bathroom, be right back"

    the guy followed her the whole night, but i didn't so much. at the end we all went out and told her, lets go to my car and grabbed her hand. the other's guy reaction when he saw that was "PEACE OUT". we were at the bottom of the stairs and he was at the top. when she heard that she went back to his group of friends "to tell them she was be right back". on her way down she fell on the stairs and the guy picked her up by her hand and came all the way down to where i was and i grabbed her other hand.

    I was in a terrible disadvantage that night since her brother was driving her car, and the other guy and his friends met at her house and went all together to the restaurant. I arrived there with other friends. the guy and other ppl were staying at her house for the night, and the next day going to the beach. she mentioned about staying at her house when she called me on monday, but never brought it back, and she also invited me to the beach, which i was going to. I didnt want to give up and let her go with the other guy, but it was inevitable, her mom was waiting for her at her house.

    i drove to where her car was and she was like: "are you coming to my house?"..i wanted to go but the friends that were with me did not want to go. at the end I got really mad and she sat next to me on the driver's seat. she was like i have to go, give me a hug. I looked at her with a " i dont want to give you a hug" look on my face. she gave me a hug but i didnt give it back. i closed the door and started the car. I didnt noticed she was saying back to my friends in the back seat and moved the car forward a little bit. she lost her balance, but nothing happened to her. she overreacted. I said I am sorry i didnt see you. she didnt even say anything and she left.

    I havent heard anything from her since that night. all i know is that she went to the beach, and at night to house of blues. I am almost sure the other dude was there.

    Last night the fucker commented on facebook on a photo of her an I on the beach from last wednesday. he wrote: aww how cute. you all look happy"


    I dont know what to do honestly. My pride is so hurt and i am very pissed.


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