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  1. #31
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    Default Re: Debate with myself

    you need to be busier Ragr. neither of them should have so much access to your time slots. other activities, other babes. i would have other babes to see so if she really wants me, time is limited and she better hustle to get a piece of it. there is always more quim out there.

    dont get caught like the AFC metro standing around the bar with his other afc metro try hard mates getting juiced and carrying on like twerps. we are too busy to be hanging out with people who demonstrate with the very games they play that they are of Lower Value

    shift it up a gear mate and chase down another set or 3. raise ya game. just watch for those thin leg metro jeans coming into set... mkay

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    lol dude you were doing good until you let just the presence of him turn you into an AFC. You need to keep it up, obviously if you make him mad, he is an AFC and he will freak out on here. He followed her around like a fucking chump, and did all that AFC shit. What you need to do is get her to talk to you again and then dont let you game go down the drains. You needed to stay the alpha male, the guy she wanted to go see. How would you feel if she came over to see you and he followed her? it would make you feel good right, cause she had the chance to just talk to him but she wanted to come see you. So what you need to do is be the fucking man and not an AFC. then when she gets addicted to seeing you and wanting your attention, you have got her. She is already attracted, now you just have to put that AFC to shame. But first off, she is mad at you cause she obviously saw that you were pissed especially with the car thing. So you need to fix that and then go right back into running hard game. Even if she tells him she will be right back, keep her occupied. Take her for a walk or something and talk. It will piss him off cause he waiting for her like a little fucking puppy dog and then he will blow up just like you did. You can tell he has no problem being a d bag cause the way he commented the photo. So just throw him off his game and let him bury himself. You have the rapport built, the trust and the attraction. ALl you need to do is fix what happened that night and then put his game to shame. most of all, you need to be alpha and make her want to jump through your hoops for attention. But you at the same time want to show ur interest. So dont be a dick. Just be like your busy and your doing your own thing. so as an example, i would have been doing my own thing and then just sometime in the middle of the evening walked up and thrown her a bone when she was alone.something like "hey stranger, i have been trying to talk to your cute busy ass all night. what no more time for the guy that tried to look hot for u on your birthday." or also neg her about her trying to give you orders "hey goof, i dont take orders at all but since it was your birthday i thought i would look hot, but dont take this for granted, i wear the pants...period!!" well this is getting long. just fix the night, be alpha and then throw off that other fuckers game

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    Default Re: Debate with myself

    She threw a Sh1t Test at you and you failed. You cant let this stuff mess you up dude. Just because some other guy comes around doesn’t mean you change your game. You have to be ALPHA. If you cant be then you don’t need to be in the game. She didn’t know she did it, or maybe she did, but she threw you into a triangle affect. You have to get yourself out of it. In that situation you do that by amoging. If you stayed alpha and ran your game as always you would be golden right now.
    Next time something like this happens don’t let it phase you. Instead go open a 3 or 4 set and raise your value. Throw her into the triangle and let her see how it feels.
    Your not out of it yet here dude, keep your chin up. Stop being AFC and become the PUA

  4. #34
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    what stock do youhave in yourself?

  5. #35
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    So you guys think i am the one who should look for her again? because all these days i have been thinking she should be the one looking for me. I know i kind of screwed up at the end but the thing she did was worst.

    So how do you guys think i should look for her? a text,call? i honestly don't know. and what should I say to her?

    and crobinson, when you talk about throwing off the other dude's game, how exactly should I do it?

    To be honest I have never had this kind of experience before, and I am so lost that I am not even sure whose fault is it.

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    lol its not bad for her to do that thing. girls are always basically looking for a potential "perfect" guy. So it sucks that he came but that shouldnt make you mad. She was the one saying she thinks ur her soulmate. So just run with it and fuck the other dude. Well obviously you saw the dudes game, just fuck it up. Like one time a guy always knew what to say to a girl i was hitting on and then he was honestly hotter than me. He looked like a model but she had even told me he was boring and was venting to me. One time he tried to sit and steal her attention while we were talking. so i put him on the spot and fucked with his game. i hit on him and he just laughed, then i upped his game and this is where he fucked up. I asked him if he wanted to have a threesome with a girl and us two. and then just made him feel uncomfortable. He didnt know what to say and then he turned red and then blow up on her right there just like i told you. He was just like, wth did u invite this faggot he is so gay and nobody likes him. then he walks away saying this is bullshit. I just stole her away. We left the venue and i took her for ice cream and talked and ended up finding our way to my place and i made out and fuck closed her. I didnt work out cause she wasnt my type of girl. But i won her without a problem. you just have to fuck up his game. So if he is always fun make him boring. if he is always the center of attention steal that from him. stuff like that. and he will more than likely get mad and blow up on her and then bam she is more into you. but as far as coming back from the fuck up i need to think about it that would be hard.

    HEY BILL DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS ON HOW A GUY CAN START TALKING TO A GIRL AFTER HE FUCKED UP ONE NIGHT. LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS UPDATE TO BE MORE INFORMED!!

  7. #37
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    Lol, in my culture and in my logic, that kind of stuff she did is unacceptable. that is whore behavior that i want to stay away from. But now she wants to play like that i want to play too. Her friend girl X, told me when i went to the concert that girl A is not taking anyone seriously, that she was "spending time" with another guy, but that it was the same with me. I dont know why i received too many signals, and i still let stupid feelings came in.

    yeah, well your examples of farking up his game are great for that kind of situations, but i honestly think that kind of situation is not going to happen again. I hope not.

    I could definitely try something with the comment he posted on the photo. But i dont want to make myself look immature, d bag, or any kind of negative thing that could work against me. I asked some friends and they told me to not even bother replying to that Sh1t.

    By the way, her friend (girl x), texted me about 30 mins ago saying "cousin are you pissed at me?". I am kind of pissed at her since from my point of view she is an hypocrite and a double face. I dont know what to tell her. I want to take advantage of her if she has some useful info i could use to come back, because believe me, i want to come back.

    Bill and others, really need to get out of this one. Need to win this because I feel like i am loosing, and i don't want this experience to chase me for the rest of my life.
    Last edited by ragr; 05-26-2010 at 02:14 PM.

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    Default Re: Debate with myself

    lol well that a good thing to try i forgot about girl x. Since she is not taking anybody seriously. get her jealous and make her friend really into you. i might respond with a text that prompts a response but also make it playful and flirty. " well yeah im pissed! Im sitting her at a pool with noone to fan me with a big leaf or feed me grapes!! why arent you here :P" that makes it playful, takes away her insecurity of you being mad, and then also prompts a response and then sets it up for sexual Tension building on the next text. You could put next " ok well if your going to do this i want you to look really sexy and wear a bikini. and thats an order!! " yeah then slowly make her happy, hit on her and then it gives you a chance to show your not a bad guy and can then soon talk to girl A

  9. #39
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    Default Re: Debate with myself

    go away and fuck 10 other girls

  10. #40
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    Alright so, after being "pissed with girl A" i managed to text her last sunday. I was going to a club and i txt "hey im going to x place, wanna come?" as if nothing happened in her bday. she said yes. we had fun at the event then we went to a friends house which has a kids playground in front. we made out there for like 3 hours, and i fingered her. the sprinklers then started to shoot water to us and we ran and kissed and it was pretty romantic.

    I sent her some txts with double meaning (sexual content) and she agreed to see me the following wednesday. the plan was she comes to my house, then we both go to a restaurant were our friends are. she came and we made out. I took her to my room and my bed grabbed her boobs and stuff, but then she backed off. she said we had to go because our friends were waiting for us and stuff. she was like in her mind "should i stay or go" and i could see that because she got up from my bed, then she layed again, then i kissed her ear, then she said "yep, we definitely should go". (she is a virgin for the record)

    so we went to the restaurant and the came back to my house where we stayed inside my car for like an hour and a half. we made out again and she jacked me off while i fingered her and made out. she got tired of jacking me off lol, so i decided to put all my energy into fingering her. she came and stuff and then toll me "i better put my pants again because i don't want to do something i regret later" i said ok. she the started to ask me questions about why i like her and stuff. at one point she put a serious face and i asked her "whats wrong" and she said "I am afraid of falling in love again" to which i responded "take your time, i am not your ex, and don't be afraid". she then kissed me.

    so now i realize I still don't know what she freaking wants with me. that "afraid of falling in love" took me by surprise. I didnt expected that because of what happened in her bday (i don't know if she is still "hanging out" the other dude").

    Apparently i am seeing her tomorrow and what i have planed to bring to the conversation is: "i was thinking about last time that you told me you were afraid of falling in love, but I am still unsure of what you want. what do you want between us? do you want us to play?get serious?what?..I know what i wasn't and is having something beautiful with you, but i am single and opened to other possibilities.we are both adults and i want to keep things clear between us" Of course i am telling her this in a very calmed and sweet way.

    I want this girl to be my gfriend if she also wants the same. I am also tempted to ask about the other guy but i dont know yet. What do you guys think? any advice on what i should or should not say?

    Thanks a lot all.


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