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  1. #1
    OverTheEdge Guest

    Default Recent Experiences, expert advice would be greatly appreciated!

    Before I start, early into this year, I was obsessed with PUA. Right when I felt like I was gaining the confidence to become good within a matter of months at PUA, that included me taking full initiative, school kicked me in the nuts. So, I stopped looking into PUA in order to focus on school. Well, school is now over and I've felt like my feeling of confidence that I was gaining in has slowly withered away. So, I'm trying to get back into the shuffle of things, making a few approaches here and there. So, what I'm trying to say is, where-as before when I felt like things were going good, and I felt like I would have the right thing to say in any situation, now, I've lost some of that feeling. So, I would like some good tips to point me in the right direction again!

    ANYWAYS, ONTO THE field report:

    Field Report 1

    Last Saturday, I was in a club, and due to alcohol, yes I know I don't like gaming drunk (it was my friends birthday), but I decided due to my drunk logic, I would approach EVERY woman In the same vicinity as I was in. So, the first woman that set it off actually approached me.

    She first said, "can I sit here?" (It was on the ledge of the couch I was on)

    I respond, "maybeee" followed by a smile

    She smiled back and then sat down, I ended up being pulled into a conversation with someone else, so I looked away - the conversation ended with the people I talked to

    I recall grabbing my glass or something of the sort, taking sips of my vodka and whatever else was mixed with it, she taps me on the shoulder

    "So, what's your name?"

    I told her my name, she told me hers (which I forget, yes. I blame alcohol)

    at this point the people beside me left, so I slid over and signalled for her to sit down beside me, she did.

    I forget EXACTLY what it was we were talking about at this point, but she had told me she was from out of town (a farm town or something),

    "I came from *insert some random ass farm town* with a couple of my girlfriends, that's one of them over there!"

    *She points to a girl adjacent from our posistion who looks like she is going to throw up*

    I respond, "A farm town eh? How much more boring is that then being in Toronto?"

    She laughs, "It's not that bad"

    "Do you guys even have a bar, or heard of one up until this point?"

    She laughs, and says, "We have one bar! but it's all old people!"

    "I remember I went to a bar in a small town once, it was all young girls with their moms"

    She laughs again, "that would be so weird"

    "I know it was, do you go partying in *whatever that small town was* with your mom?"

    she says "Nooo!"

    "Because that's kindaaa weird"

    she laughs, "no I don't! gosh I would never go partying with my mom, she would ruin everything" (or something like this)

    I teased her a bit, I was getting good IOIs, she had her hand on my lap from time to time during the conversation, on my arm, playing with her hair, etc.

    So anywayyyys,

    the conversation continues and at some point I decide it's starting to die down, I recall remembering at this point, "when it starts to die down, perfect time to get a number"

    so I said something like,

    "You seem pretty interesting, next time you're in Toronto again lets party! What's your number?" *I pulled out my phone casually*

    The Vibe unlike other times I failed getting a number didn't seem THAT different (mind you I was drunk) and she responds,

    "I don't come to Toronto that often!"

    So I forget what I followed up with, so I continued the conversation going to ask for a number agian, but I didn't know how to come off smoothly without seeming awkward

    and before I could, her incredibly drunk friend says, "lets dannnnce!" and she places her drink down and says,

    "Can you watch that for me?"

    I said, "Maybeee, but if someone spills it, it's not my fault!" *smile on my face* or something to that degree

    She laughs and goes on her way

    BTW I know PUAs and such like to gauge the women by a number, this girl was about a 8 - 9.

    SO. I figured, TWO THINGS could have happened here. She simply started talking to me as a result of her friend being in same vicinity, so she decided to talk to me so she didn't come off as awkward being there, alone. However, REGARDLESS of that, the amount I had her laughing, and the IOIs I recieved, told me I was doing SOMETHING right.

    I won't delve into any more tales of toronto only because, there were TWO crash and burns, and the other girl I talked to, seemed initially interested in me, and then completely itnerested in my friend. At which point my drunken logic told me, "fark it."

    Field Report 2:

    Last night I'm at a club in my local city, and the night I had a couple drinks, nothing to classify me as hammered. I'm in the smokers area, I'm with a couple of friends, we're laughing joking around, etc. Two women approach us asking if we have an extra ciggerette and a lighter? My friend gives her this, and then...

    "Thanks!" Says the one girl

    followed by, "So are you guys from here?"

    We say yes, at this point, both girls break off, my friend talks to the girl who initially asked for a ciggerette, I talk to the girl closest to me

    she says, "I love it here so much!"

    I respond, "Yeeeah, it's alright"

    "why don't you like it?"

    "There's only so much you can do, it gets kinda boring after awhile!"

    "Yeah I guess, I goto a University in *I forget whereee...* though, and the clubs and bars there you have to leave so early to get in because there's only like two good ones"

    "Oh ok, what are you going to University for?"

    "Psychology" or something a long these lines... I'm not completely certain, but this seems to ring a bell when thinking back to the conversation

    "Oh really?"

    "Yeah"

    "You look like a fashion student" (She was dressed overly stylish, had a hipster vibe about her)

    She was flattered, "Ohh really? I've never heard that before!" or something like that

    RANDOMLY some dude comes out with a bottle of Corona, and says, "HEY GUYS, you can have this bottle of corona, it's only been opened I haven't drank out of it!" He leans over to the side of me and places it on the table behind me and leaves.

    I look at her and laugh, "So do you want that bottle of Corona? That sketchy guy may or may not have put any roofies in it"

    She laughs, "yeeeeeah I definitely want it!" sarcastically

    I kinda forget what was said at this point, I remember we exchanged names, but I bridged the conversation back into the initial topic

    "Yeah, my universities night life is pretty boring" she says

    I forget what was said, it was kind of boring at this point

    anyways, I overhear her friend talking about vegas, to salvage the dieing conversation, I try to bring us into this one she talks about how vegas was so fun or something to that degree

    "Yeah? Are you even old enough to be going to vegas? You look like you're only 18 or 19"

    The girl I was initially talking to, "No, she's only 17!"

    "I knew it!"

    They both laugh, "No really, she's 23"

    I respond, "I remember I went to Vegas and it was a lot of spanish people handing out fliers for escorts"

    they both laugh, the girls friend says, "Yeah it is! I was drunk in the street and they kept handing me out these fliers, I had a stack this big" She demonstrates with her hand how big the stack was

    ANYWAYS, the girl I was initially talking to walks off and goes and talks to some other friends.



    So, I FEEL I'm gaining better grounds on being able to come off as a decent conversationist. However, IF we're gauging this off of Mystery Method (which I don't like ot use, but it has some great theory involved) I'm able to start off in the comfort phase, but the attraction phase, I feel I'm lacking. ANY pointers would be GREAT!

    IF you trecked through all of this, thank you for taking your time to read it!

  2. #2
    Salaami Guest

    Default Re: Recent Experiences, expert advice would be greatly appreciated!

    Your conversation stays professional for too long, start talking about sex goddammit, these girls probably feel like they are talking to a teacher.

    Not any keno from what I understand.

  3. #3
    OverTheEdge Guest

    Default Re: Recent Experiences, expert advice would be greatly appreciated!

    Quote Originally Posted by Salaami View Post
    Your conversation stays professional for too long, start talking about sex goddammit, these girls probably feel like they are talking to a teacher.

    Not any keno from what I understand.
    I'm curious, how would you have gone about the frst conversation? What would you have said?

  4. #4
    Salaami Guest

    Default Re: Recent Experiences, expert advice would be greatly appreciated!

    Something about how she must not party often, lead into going home with people, Push Pull about taking her home, kclose, win.

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    Default Re: Recent Experiences, expert advice would be greatly appreciated!

    ok first off she was puddy in your hands. Once you found out she wasnt from here you dont go for her number you go fo a fuck close. She complies with sitting, she tried to open you. What other BIG ioi's do you need. After saeeing those you should have been fun and dsifferent but then jumped into keno, sexual tension and building some rapport while making her feel that if it went to fast that you dont judge and what happens was meant to happen. With that you could have fuck closed and then probably got a number for a solid booty call if she ever comes back. Ok so the conversation was good, you teased and negged but never escalated to make her get in the mood, if you would have used keno and sexual tension, you could have kiss closed and then if you had wing men to take care of the friends or you had the social status at the bar to ease her mind that her frineds are getting home just fine, you get less resistance getting her to leave with you. So good on conversation, bad on no keno escalation, no sexual tension building and then you should have tried to bump into her later, build it again and go for the kiss close. So you did well but couldnt seal the deal.
    next...

    ok same thing, you start off good. you make good jokes but you were handed the time for a fun and hilarious dhv story you could have made up. Shit while reading it i made up some bullshit about one time my friend Amy was at a club dancing and the next thing we know she had just finished her second drink and was completely out of it. She usually drinks a lot but she seemed like she chugged tons of alcohol. We finally came to the conclusion that she was drugged so i ended up leaving to take her home and make sure she was ok before leaving cause i had to work in the morning. Bam it shows DHV that you can have girls that are friends and it not be wierd. It shows you care about your friends enough to leave a club, take them home and take care of them and a few other things. throw in a couple of jokes and bam got a funny story. But you can create a good conversation and you can always make good jokes but you have to be more like a good talker. Good talker = good friend. Jump into sexual tension, keno escalation and try to kiss close and fuck close. You have the opening down just need to work on closing them with solid game.

    well i hope this helped. i know im not a expert at pick up but i feel like im pretty damn good.

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    Default Re: Recent Experiences, expert advice would be greatly appreciated!

    Story 1 sounds like foosmate. In that case all you got to do is not screw it up. I agree that Number Close wasnt the right way to go. Got to disqualify, build attraction then go for the k close and work from there. YOu let one slip there dude. But learn from it, and build better game from it.

    case 2: I agree with crob about the DVH story, would have worked great there. Also if she is coming up to you and asking for a smoke, dont jump through her hoop make her jump through hers. Say something like sure but you have to tell me a joke first and not some cheassy one i mean a good one! Maker her work for your attention. This is a normal line of mine and always gets them hooked in.

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    Default Re: Recent Experiences, expert advice would be greatly appreciated!

    thats good...yeah you are good with conversation but you arent closing it with the sexual attraction. So next time try that and then i really like his line. Always make her work for your attention and not just jump onto the band wagon like all the AFC's. most guys will just jump through her hoops for her attention. fuck that, she aint that special.haha your a prize, make her realize that


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