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  1. #1
    lez999 Guest

    Default NOW I NEED HELP I got a waitress' number

    It was a little sloppy but got there in the end. We were sitting at a table (me, a girl and a guy) and she cam over. super cute but didn't know it and she was new so it made it easier. anyway slowly started chatting when she came, i told her she had tiny hands then later she came back i said here let me show you something cool, give me your hands. she did and then i said oh no you don't qualify and threw them back at her. she then started saying how its her birthday, i said should i guess how old you are (i heard a minute before that she is 23). she said sure and i said do you want me to guess high or low. she said whatever i want. I said ok, hmmm 3....1? no wait. 29? her face went shocked, so i played it as if if i had gone to low and said, oh, 34? my friend then said it was his birthday as well this week and he is having a party and she should come. she said she will def come if she isn't working.

    anyway, she started coming back more and then bought us all drinks for her birthday, so she came and took a shot with us. i said ill show her a magic trick for her birthday and did the Magician's Choice. Her face was . she kinda new but begged me to tell her. i pre-closed her by saying, no, i only tell people who are close to me. if we date i will tell you. she body languaged complied and then went back to the bar. she then was checking me out while serving other customers etc. she gave us the bill and when we were about to leave my friends started to go and i went to her to give her the bill. as i did, i held out my phone and told her to give me her number. she wanted to but had that little resistance and i said, worst case scenario i will let you know about the birthday. that was enough and she gave it to me.

    I then texted her about an hour later saying:

    'yo 34 year old, how spontaneous are you'

    she wrote back a few minutes later

    'depends...what did you have in mind?'

    i replied

    'im pretty wild. im well in there with the senior citizens at the club. you like bingo and scrabble?'

    reply

    'of course how can you not like bingo?'

    i replied

    'exactly. i dont wanna brag but im house champion. undefeated.'

    she replied

    'if you would have said you were champion at scrabble that might have been a little impressive. but bingo is all about luck have a magnificent night *my name*!'

    Ok, so now what. I started it off with the texts but she ended it which was my mistake. but she ended it on a high note (plus it was then 4 in the morning) and she seemed happy that i texted (no?)

    Now what do i do? should i call her today and arrange a date or wait a couple of days. I also need some good ideas of where to take her...
    Last edited by lez999; 08-14-2010 at 07:38 PM.

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    Default Re: I got a waitress' number

    wow not bad. you did well. good little negs, keno and decent text game. i actually would work your text game one more time and go for the meet. this time escalate and go for the close cause she seems like she is attracted to you.
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    Default Re: I got a waitress' number

    Quote Originally Posted by crobinson1 View Post
    wow not bad. you did well. good little negs, keno and decent text game. i actually would work your text game one more time and go for the meet. this time escalate and go for the close cause she seems like she is attracted to you.
    Thanks!

    I actually didn't think my game was all that but I obviously did something right. Do you think there is any significance to her ending the text conversation and how do you think I should pick it up again?

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    Default Re: I got a waitress' number

    lol..it was 4 in the morning, you should have realized someone would get tired soon and end, i usually dont text past 12am..my excuse ...i like my sleep...or im 'busy'(dont tell..if she asks..just say business :P keep her guessing)
    hmmm...picking it up the day after is NEEDY since she ended it...but CALL maybe in 2-3 days..i think that should be all right, i either do that or wait for her to send me something or call..they usually send ME something or call and when they do that just shows you aint needy and its also a clear ioi for you...but at times it may take her as long as one week though! If she asks why you havent kept in touch just say ''Iv had a busy week baby...but i did see something recently that reminded me of you..was gonna call you'' ...if she asks what it was..tell her youll tell her when you see her tomorrow during your coffee break or something(be a bit demanding...should be a short date!!)..make sure you spend that '30mins-1hour MAX' very well! keep her hooked and leave when shes just wanting more! Always works for me anyways..

    Anyway..its up to you..what will it be Neo..the red or blue pill? lol
    Last edited by Fakhry; 08-09-2010 at 12:56 AM.

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    lez999 Guest

    Default Re: I got a waitress' number

    Quote Originally Posted by crobinson1 View Post
    wow not bad. you did well. good little negs, keno and decent text game. i actually would work your text game one more time and go for the meet. this time escalate and go for the close cause she seems like she is attracted to you.
    Ok so I took your advice and went for the text game again. The convo went like this:

    Me: 'young miss lionheart (nickname), wanna get together tomorrow evening?

    Her: 'I'm working tomorrow night...but i'd love to get together another day'

    Me: ''ouch, rejection ok what day do you want?'

    Her: 'sat night?'

    Me: 'Ok sure. so where are you taking me?'

    Her: ''dinner, movie and scrabble ' (Great reference here to the previous conversation! meant she was thinking about me)

    Me: 'sorry, i don't play scrabble on the first date'

    Her: 'So where are you taking me instead?'

    Me: 'knowing stuff in advance is boring. just meet me at XXX across from YYY and we will be spontaneous. bring a snorkel'

    Her: 'Gladly '
    Last edited by lez999; 08-09-2010 at 07:10 PM.

  6. #6
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    Default Re: I got a waitress' number

    Ok so i finally went out with her tonight. There aren't many good places in town to go, so I met her at a certain place and then suggested we go to this bar. She said ok but when we got there she said nah lets go somewhere else. We did and sat at the bar. Her body language wasn't great and a lot of the time the conversation didn't flow. Then at some point it did flow and she was laughing and we got on quite well. After about two hours I suggested we bounce and head somewhere else but she seemed a little exhausted so I said hey, we can call it a night if you like. She said yeah she is really tired and had a very long day and needs to be up in the morning but that next time we can go to the place I want. I walk her back to hers and she asks me when I am flying and I say in a week and a half and that we would see each other before. She said yeah and it seemed to end ok (albiet a very short date ). I then went to sit with my mates and 20 minutes later, different clothes who do I see walking down the street, but her!!! I was like err, hello? She said oh she needs to go to work (she's a bartender)... and then left.

    I texted her saying 'Yeah that looked really bad.." and didn't get a reply.

    Now I know this probably couldn't have gone any worse. The signs are awful and the fact that she then went out again (whether or not she was telling the truth which is a possibility) is bad. Why wouldn't she just say so, why did she just not reply etc.

    Ok, so I want another shot with her. Is it possible and if so how do I do it? (Was thinking texting her on monday being like, "ok so that was the worst first date ever, give me another chance and ill make it up to you" or something?

    I need help on this one. BAD.

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    Default Re: I got a waitress' number

    ok wow. well i could point out plenty of stuff wrong. first off you didnt mention any keno, no sexual escaltion, when the conversation died you did not try to multi thread or even use some of our games to make her laugh. then when going to a bar and having her say no and choose a place. why let her lead the interaction. choose another place you like. then you didnt seem alpha at all. why not try some social proof. if your going to a bar, get some friends out with you who can help bring you out of your shell so ur not introverted and you seem to be the life of the party. so obviously you were boring enough that when you tried to switch venues that she didnt even want to come along, she wanted to go somewhere else.

    i have sometimes made an excuse of going to a house party/ other bar where i have some friends and i know the bartenders. that allows you to have fun, work game and ultimately help out your game cause she is relying on just you to lead the interaction

    so some things you need to work on first is conversation flow and how to come back from a dead conversation. maybe even playing some games to get her talking, or to neg her, or to disqualify her. i mean play something silly like marry, fuck, kill. that game is always fun especially with alcohol involved. then that could lead to her talking about her type, getting to know her, building some rapport and comfort. it allows you to use some keno and then even setup for sexual escalation. when she is talking about marriage and fucking, that allows you to openly sexually escalate. so go for it. but maybe you can come back from it.

    DO NOT!!! send that beta message. that shows you are not confident, that the interaction was horrible and puts her on the spot to dawg on you. send something more alpha even something that could neg. and something where she has to make it up to you.
    examples:
    "Hola there feisty pants?!? Ok well since im flying out soon i was considering inviting you out to...." this says nothing about the horrible date, it holds a strong frame while showing a non pushy time line that she needs to see you soon.
    or you can do it where you guys have a movie thing, which allows you to escalalte while also calling her out.
    "Ok liar Mcliarsen. After that we need to have a better night. I have some amazing wine and a bunch of movies? Would you like to watch movies with me tonight? check yes[] or yes []! pajamas are required"

    ok so the next exampled caller her out about lying but was not very direct at all and kept a very playful tone like its no big deal. then it showed you guys will be just drinking and chilling which sets it up for a good night. you use a funny technique of check yes or yes from race de priests text game and then you put a requirement for her to wear pajamas. overall both these messages are very both alpha and could get you another meet up. if you mess up again its probably done
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    Default Re: I got a waitress' number

    Quote Originally Posted by crobinson1 View Post
    ok wow. well i could point out plenty of stuff wrong. first off you didnt mention any keno, no sexual escaltion, when the conversation died you did not try to multi thread or even use some of our games to make her laugh. then when going to a bar and having her say no and choose a place. why let her lead the interaction. choose another place you like. then you didnt seem alpha at all. why not try some social proof. if your going to a bar, get some friends out with you who can help bring you out of your shell so ur not introverted and you seem to be the life of the party. so obviously you were boring enough that when you tried to switch venues that she didnt even want to come along, she wanted to go somewhere else.

    i have sometimes made an excuse of going to a house party/ other bar where i have some friends and i know the bartenders. that allows you to have fun, work game and ultimately help out your game cause she is relying on just you to lead the interaction

    so some things you need to work on first is conversation flow and how to come back from a dead conversation. maybe even playing some games to get her talking, or to neg her, or to disqualify her. i mean play something silly like marry, fark, kill. that game is always fun especially with alcohol involved. then that could lead to her talking about her type, getting to know her, building some rapport and comfort. it allows you to use some keno and then even setup for sexual escalation. when she is talking about marriage and farking, that allows you to openly sexually escalate. so go for it. but maybe you can come back from it.

    DO NOT!!! send that beta message. that shows you are not confident, that the interaction was horrible and puts her on the spot to dawg on you. send something more alpha even something that could neg. and something where she has to make it up to you.
    examples:
    "Hola there feisty pants?!? Ok well since im flying out soon i was considering inviting you out to...." this says nothing about the horrible date, it holds a strong frame while showing a non pushy time line that she needs to see you soon.
    or you can do it where you guys have a movie thing, which allows you to escalalte while also calling her out.
    "Ok liar Mcliarsen. After that we need to have a better night. I have some amazing wine and a bunch of movies? Would you like to watch movies with me tonight? check yes[] or yes []! pajamas are required"

    ok so the next exampled caller her out about lying but was not very direct at all and kept a very playful tone like its no big deal. then it showed you guys will be just drinking and chilling which sets it up for a good night. you use a funny technique of check yes or yes from race de priests text game and then you put a requirement for her to wear pajamas. overall both these messages are very both alpha and could get you another meet up. if you mess up again its probably done
    Don't worry I wasn't going to send that message I was just trying to convey to confident bashed beta that I am feeling right now. I did do some keno and she started to respond to it playfully hitting me etc. Its just the convo seemed a little forced at times and it seemed awkward.

    Ok, I like the texts. Do you not think if I send the latter she will be like 'err, who the fark is this guy? I wasn't lying. :/' You really think I should call her out on it?

    Also, can you tell me some of the games? I dont know any of them including marry fark etc. Can you tell me some others?

    When should I send the text?

  9. #9
    lez999 Guest

    Default Re: I got a waitress' number

    Ok there's been a bit of an update. I was sitting in a bar and saw her walk past. I walked after her and said hello. She seemed genuinely happy to see me. I asked how work was and she said it sucked cos she was on the roaster and she is now really tired. We talked for a couple of minutes, nothing fancy just a couple of things we did today. I then turned away and said ok listen we will talk this week (and get together) to which she body complied.

    Ok, so I may have jumped the gun. It still wasn't a great date, that's for sure but I MIGHT get a second chance now. I have a friend's goodbye party tomorrow night who is going to do an internship at the white house. It would be great to get her to come along as my friends will social proof me and I will be in a natural environment. but if I text her:

    'hola super nerd, my friend has an internship in washington at the white house and is having a goodbye party. come with me."

    I feel if I send that I am setting myself up for her saying no, for whatever reason (most likely she is working which is a very likely possibility considering she wasn't working tonight).

    Any better suggestions? Should I just scrap the goodbye party and go for something more intimate?

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    Default Re: I got a waitress' number

    no i would go for the goodbye party. it allows for a good time and lots of game throwing. but personally i would send something similar.

    "hola super nerd! My friend is doing an internship in washington at the white house and is having a goodbye party. I was thinking of inviting you but only if you bring buckets of fun and promise not to embarrass me!"

    this message is just completely alpha and uses plenty of techniques to get her to come out. and it is just upbeat, fun, playful and flirty.
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