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  1. #11
    JuanPablo75 Guest

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    hi tothem!! , it was nice to chat whit you on chat night lol, ( for those who didn't show , u missed the virtual beers and burgers, lol.

    first, i guess u should tell us your age, i know it, but it will help i guess to a better understanding. tothem is a young guy, under 18, therefore there's plenty of time for him to developed a strong alpha attitude, if most of us, over 20 or 30, like myself, when a HB10 aproachs can avoid the rush of adrenaline, ....... picture tothem and all of us on that matter whit that age and in that situation.

    i guess that girl play whit you, no matter if she is in or not about you, she know she is hot, and used, u did mma, take it like an example when u train whit a more strong dude, if u let you been intimidated for him, he will drag ur ass all over the tatami, if u look him just like an equal, and knowing ur edge, smaller, = faster = more flexible, u can overpower him . of course i'm not saying u take the girl down lol but switch the scenario to a pub, the dude for the girl, and the skill u had on the dojo, for the skills u are learning here, no matter how hot she is, u r the price, u know your worth and u know that she is the one that must be chasing you and beggin you, not the other way around, crobinson is right, ( hi crob, by the way!!! ) he give u good advices and they pay,

    hope we can chat soon man, !!!

  2. #12
    tothem Guest

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    Hey Juan!Nice to chat with you to dude... : x
    Yeah,I'll try to focus on that.It's pretty easy in theory,a bit hard in practice,though.That 's why I'm practicing a lot...
    Hum,I'm 17 and this girl is 19,almost 20.
    Ah...due to that (being under 18) and hanging out to clubs and etc (usually with older people) I almost aways lie my age (I look older, 1,85m with 82kg and less then 12% body fat). '-'
    Last edited by tothem; 09-15-2010 at 07:39 PM.

  3. #13
    JuanPablo75 Guest

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    well...... man. the bodyfat porcentage...... that was way to much info lol!!!!

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    Default Re: Crazy sat night

    Ok that helps.

    1. Opening is all up to you. You have to find your own stuleans what works beat for you. I use. direct openers. Crob goes more situational for as much as I can remember from the last time we talked about opening. There are always opinionated that work as well. If you have never done it, check out the post on here called hiroshima opener. Watch it and try it. I keep the sign in my pocket as a fall back. If you haven't experimented with each type I would make sure you did so.

    2. I revert to crob he is far better than me and can give you some really solid advise. I do this wierd thing where i will text them when I'm still in set saying something stupid an being very playful. They normally reapond and do the same. Btw great way to build sexual Tension right infront of everyone without them knowing.

    3. I always stress that you should work on inner game. Solid inner game leads to solid outer game.

    Hope this helps.
    Stay alpha!

  5. #15
    tothem Guest

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    Hum...I already tried a lot of openers.The ones I really didn't have a lot of success with were opinion openers.I'll read about that hiroshima opener and try it out this week.
    ah,I'll also try to game a bit at the gym this week... kkkkk ... that might be a good place to test some openers (in the gym I think situational openers are the best despite having never gamed at the gym).
    I thought I'd have to open this HBs in some fancy way cuz they were like...very intimidating...
    Anyway..thanks a lot!!
    Last edited by tothem; 09-15-2010 at 07:48 PM.

  6. #16
    JuanPablo75 Guest

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    one i tried, and it works , was on a bar were i usually order expresso to bring me to my job, there this HB9, i went to the bar to pay the coffes and she was there, i ignore her. she pass behind me and touch me " casualy", and say sorry, i hit you, i remember mystery's line and fast as a lighting i reply standind nex to her ,i watch right to her eyes and says, watch it blondy, don't touch if u r not gonna buy, she giggle and tell me, is expensive? , i replied, u better start to save money now, this is not cheap ( while i was pointing to myself) always playfull, facing the waitress who i was payin, and like she wasn't the big deal ( the blondie) . i can see her IOIs, but the bar was a bit croud and the owner of the bar was there, so i pay , say good bye and live, walking calm, relax and straight.

    there some sexual Tension, but i'm having a hard time trying to find the time to game her properly, ( i work as a bank teller, so when she came to get some change for the bar the whole situation is just crazy between the people on the line and a farking mean fat female coworker that start all the time bashing me outloud. )

    u can try that next time, when she'll be touching u to get something from u,
    Last edited by JuanPablo75; 09-15-2010 at 07:59 PM.

  7. #17
    tothem Guest

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    sasaksoaksa...that seems good.
    If you accidentally hit on the girl,you can usually use the same routine,right?

    Edit: In fact I knew hiroshima opener.I don't know man,walking with a paper doesn't seem to fit in my style,but I'll try it out.
    Edit˛: If it wasn't for the paper thing,I think the hiroshima opener girlfriend variation + an opinion question would be prettyyy cool...
    Last edited by tothem; 09-15-2010 at 08:09 PM.

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    Default Re: Crazy sat night

    haha ok my bad. i have been studying a ton for a test tomorrow. but im pretty sure im about to ace the shit out of that.

    ok so from almost all my posts on text game, the biggest thing is about being fun and playful. ok so lets say you already have her number and its your first text. a first text always sets up a playful tone, reminds her of her attraction. i have given tons of examples but i actually just wrote a quick thing for pjarv on beginning text game techniques that i notice make for a good text convo and good for setting up dates.

    Ok so time for something personally that I love but lots of guys find trouble with and find very hard. TEXT GAME!!! Yes I said it, text game. Lots of guys have lots of different techniques and ill show you some that I personally love but if there is anything you learn about text game its about being fun, playful and different. If you haven’t noticed lots of AFC’s sending the usual text that says “hey whats up” or certain things like that. And if you have ever sent this to a girl then you have probably got the usual response “not much” or “nothing”. So the biggest thing you can do or take away from this post is the fact to just break them out of autopilot and engage their emotions whether it be laughter or something else.
    Ok so lets first start with how to text a girl whos number you just got and sometimes when to text. One of the biggest questions I get all the time is when should I text a girl. I mean lots of guys get into their own head and sometimes forget when or what to text. It actually doesn’t matter when you text a girl as long as you come with the right attitude. But a usual rule of thumb to deal with any girl is give it a day or two. Because texting a little after sometimes works and sometimes doesn’t. So ill usually play it safe. Ok now lets see what we are to text a girl when we first message her.
    Ok so now when you first text a girl you want to text them something playful and fun like I said earlier but also certain things need to be within this first text to make it very effective! These things are:
    1. It needs to engage her emotions, causing her to re-affirm her attraction to you
    2. It needs to set a fun, playful tone for the interaction to come
    3. It needs to compel her to respond

    So lets take a look at an example.
    “Hey there Petro pants! What kind of trouble are you causing today?!?
    “Hola Chicka! Yes I am starting to learn some Spanish slowly! I just realized what celebrity you remind me of…you would never guess it!
    Both these text have the components of an effective first text because there fun and playful, i have recalled rapport topics, and compelled her to respond!
    Now some of the next techniques ill use exactly from race de preists own b4utxther because they are so creative and you will love them
    Remember when you used to play “house” with a girl you like in elementary school? You were the husband and girl you had a crush on was the wife. Or perhaps it was doctor and patient or Kind and Queen of the castle (a.k.a. the slide). Although it may have just seemed like a fun game at the time, there was some very powerful psychological principles of attraction going on there. The best part is those principles are far more effective now that you are older. In fact, the affects of successfully role-playing with a woman you are interested in are so astounding you will wonder why you haven’t been doing it all along.
    The human brain has trouble distinguishing between imagined events and real memories. This is significant because every time you create an imagined event with a woman using role-playing, she is in essence creating a memory with you. The more memories you have with someone the more comfortable you feel around them. After all, are not all the relationships you have in your life formed from the feelings and bonds created through shared memories together?
    When role-playing with a woman the devil is in the details. The more vivid she can imagine herself experiencing the events you describe the more powerful and “real” the memory will become. You want to pick roles where you do things together or where she is the one who is looking up to or chasing you.
    Here are a few examples of role-playing ideas:
    -Husband and Wife (or ex’s)
    -Travel Buddies (talk about all the adventures you are going on together)
    -Stalker and Victim (she is the one stalking you)
    -Teacher and Student
    -Rockstar and Groupie
    In Action:
    Saturday, Dec 27 2008 at 8:17:14 PM
    Race: Did I just catch you spying on me as I was changing into my gym clothes my little stalker?!
    Saturday, Dec 27 2008 at 8:17:59 PM
    Selma: Yes im watchin u
    Saturday, Dec 27 2008 at 8:19:46 PM
    Selma: Nice ass….
    Saturday, Dec 27 2008 at 8:20:45 PM
    Race: Hey thanks I’ll let you grab it next time we are making out
    Saturday, Dec 27 2008 at 8:23:24 PM
    Selma: K im soo goin to grab it now
    As you engage her with different role-playing scenarios you are also displaying an adventurous, exciting, or even possibly a slightly romantic side of your self. These can be short little interactions or, to get the most out of them, they can become a long running theme between you two. This way when you meet up again you already have a story line between you two that you can draw from at any time. I cannot stress enough how much comfort this creates!
    Me4/12/08 5:22 PM
    Race: Hey wanna come over here and grab some lunch wifey?
    Alicia ms law student?4/12/08 5:24 PM
    Alicia: i would love to but im working the bon jovi concert tonight through an agency and i have to leave at 4! :0( thank you so much tho! xo
    Me4/12/08 5:25 PM
    Race: Well us not seeing each other very often is putting a definite strain on our marriage:-(
    Alicia ms law student?4/12/08 5:28 PM
    Alicia: i know! i cry myself to sleep at night…. 6 more days til we go on our double honeymoon!
    Equally as significant, role playing allows her to let go of some of her insecurities and open up more than usual. Because she is ‘playing a role’ of somebody else she can use that as plausible deniability. After all it really ‘isn’t her’. When in all actuality, the things she jokes about (for the most part) are actually an outlet for how she really feels. And again, because it is a role and “not her”, she isn’t worried about being judged. She can pass that off to the character she is playing into.

    Another good technique is to tease her playfully every once in a while. Keep it light and silly. This helps lower her defenses by showing you don’t place her up on a pedestal but see her on the same level. A typical guy who was interested in her would never do this. It also makes her have to explain her self to you, confirming in her mind that you are someone she finds valuable. Be very careful with these when you are just starting off, as it is easy to go overboard and say something mean. Never directly insult a girl. They are used to that from all those other guys who get their feelings hurt when she tests them or when she doesn’t talk to them. You are not one of those guys. This is to be fun and playful…it is flirting not hurting.
    “You’re a closet dork aren’t you?..except without the closet ~”
    “Come on now… you have work today huh…? Sure it isn’t mandatory community service!? A cute, yet sassy gal who’s a felon… who woulda knew!? Hahah ”
    “Awww you’re kinda cute…for a girl ”
    If she ever has problems with her car, phone, or any thing she pays monthly for you can say:
    “Its cool if you couldn’t afford to pay your bill-I’m not judging you… that much… hahaha j/k “
    If she ever suggests a time to meet up (eg 6pm):
    “no that’s too early…dont wanna be stuck with ya that long! Let’s do 6:03 haha ”
    If she ever gives you a compliment:
    “That is the nicest thing anyone has ever told me … Since I woke up:-)”
    In Action:
    Katelyn Sunday, Dec 14 2008 at 2:21:35 PM
    Katelyn: Ohhhhh that’s right you’re that cool. Forgot for a moment who I was talking too. Haha. Glad I’m one of 6000+ girls you talk to but really none will compare.
    Kelly Sunday, Dec 14 2008 at 2:23:33 PM
    Kelly: Hahaha u seem pretty cool . Still got my eye on you though. So no funny business
    Katelyn Sunday, Dec 14 2008 at 2:28:49 PM
    Katelyn: I’m the coolest may even top you sir. Yeah you shld keep an eye on me most guys tend to. Good thinking. Haha
    Kelly Sunday, Dec 14 2008 at 3:58:15 PM
    Kelly: You’re funny. Did u have like a big stain on your shirt or something?! Hahaha U r kinda adorable..
    After she responds, no matter how she reacts, stay in a lighthearted manner. Be sensitive to whether you are offending her or not. Sometimes you can unintentionally strike a nerve and hurt her feelings. If this happens, don’t be overly apologetic. Casually apologize, say you were joking, and redirect the frame of the conversation by talking about something less serious.

    I still remember when a girlfriend of mine invited me to watch movies at her house in cutest way. Just like the notes I would get in gradeschool from a girl who was into me, she asked me to check yes or no.
    “Would you like to come over tomorrow & watch movies with me? Check [ ]yes or [ ]no”
    A funny way of altering it is to take away the no so her only options are to hang out with you.
    “Would you like to come over tomorrow & watch movies with me? Check [ ]yes or [ ]heck yes!
    This is a great way to invite a girl who you have already gone out with on several occasions and had a great time.
    A funny little to do when inviting a girl out is use an unusual time. Most people think in 15 min increments. Instead when you are giving her a time to meet make it an odd time like 7:03 or 9:47. This is another way to make her laugh and set you apart.
    Example #1
    Monday, Dec 22 2008 at 10:37:48 AM
    Race: I am thinking 9:03 tonight
    Monday, Dec 22 2008 at 10:39:02 AM
    Lola: Why not 902? Where?
    Monday, Dec 22 2008 at 10:40:12 AM
    Race: That would be waaaay too early! I don’t want you to be waiting around all night! At exchange bar
    Monday, Dec 22 2008 at 10:45:52 AM
    Lola: To think one min earlier what was i thinking. So whos going?
    Example #2
    8/14/08 9:57 PM
    Lisa: Will do! Think u can give me an approx. time? It will help me plan my escape….
    Me8/14/08 11:36 PM
    Race: 9:07
    8/14/08 11:49 PM
    Lisa: Hmmm….9:07 doesn’t work 4 me. How about 9:10? :-p
    Me8/14/08 11:56 PM
    Race: That’s waaaay to late…the party will b over by then
    8/15/08 12:02 AM
    Lisa: Wow…the elusive 3 min. party. Fine….I can meet u @ 9:08 & 22 sec. but not a moment sooner.

    Ok so at the end of these techniques is the thought of breaking her out of autopilot and leading a fun interaction for her. Trust me when you do this so she is going to smile and love texting you because your so fun.

    ok and if you like these techniques i would tell you to pick up race de preists product b4utxther, cause it is filled with billiant stuff like this!! haha ok so just these few techniques should help make it fun and help you get a meet up with her.
    Last edited by crobinson1; 09-16-2010 at 12:21 AM.
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