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Thread: The Classic Test - "I have a boyfriend"

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    temp109 Guest

    Default The Classic Test - "I have a boyfriend"

    Gents,

    I know this is an incredibly common test, so hopefully everyone has some knowledge or experience with how to deal with the "I have a boyfriend test" once your interaction with a girl is already on.

    Here's the situation for context...

    I picked up a 10 a few nights ago in a club with raw physical game, followed with solid text game and had her on a string where she responds to my texts within seconds. This 10 was literally looking around a different venue for me the next night when I wasn't even there (she thought I might have been, but the key is that she was pursuing me).

    Today I texted an invitation to meet saying "I'm going to so and so for a drink...join me". She responds quickly saying she can't today, then a minute later she texts haha and her boyfriend would kill her.

    This is clearly a test. I'm relatively new at this and haven't learned yet how to break this kind of test. I'm assuming there is a tried and true method?

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    Default Re: The Classic Test - "I have a boyfriend"

    yeah the way to run thru this test without problems is to not let it affect you. there are lines that make it funny and call her out for trying to test you like...
    Her:i have a boyfriend
    Me: i have a goldfish
    Her: What?
    Me: i thought we were just saying things that didnt matter.

    or you can always say it like your just having fun and she is looking too much into it.
    Her: i cant my boyfriend would kill me?
    Me: oh hey you can bring him along too, i heard boyfriends are great for holding open doors and stuff.

    each of these examples are ways to either call her out on it showing your very alpha and confident and in a way makes it funny that she tried testing you and also in a way that shows your nonneediness and that she might be reading into too much. both are used to lighten the mood and pass this shit test with flying colors. but the biggest thing is the type of vibe you have while saying it. if you keep it playful with a grin/smile on your face she will take it wholeheartedly and maybe even laugh
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    Default Re: The Classic Test - "I have a boyfriend"

    Reframes are great! Crob nailed it. Stay alpha and have fun. Experience shows that the girl who talks the most about her bf is the one that is willing to cheat. So sometimes I just say " that's great how's that working out for you?" read her reaction and go from there.

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    Default Re: The Classic Test - "I have a boyfriend"

    Many of these girls do have boyfriends. How is reframing going to realistically change that? Its not. What do you have to offer that her boyfriend does not have? If she has a boyfriend, she has a boyfriend. How many hot women are truly single unless they are really nutcases?

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    Default Re: The Classic Test - "I have a boyfriend"

    Quote Originally Posted by tcomea2 View Post
    Reframes are great! Crob nailed it. Stay alpha and have fun. Experience shows that the girl who talks the most about her bf is the one that is willing to cheat. So sometimes I just say " that's great how's that working out for you?" read her reaction and go from there.

    Where in the world did you find that statistic? What experience? Lets us know where you got that nugget from...please so you can back this up!

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    Default Re: The Classic Test - "I have a boyfriend"

    Crob has a good point mabye in your next text you should start working on a BFD um maybe some thing along the lines. heres some other material i have so maybe use this.

    Ignore it. Don't make an issue of it. The first time she brings up her BF, don't say anything more than, "That's cute." Just keep gaming her. You can break this rule later when you learn to calibrate.
    If she brings it up again, there are a few techniques I have that work REALLY well to make take her BF out of her mind and put YOU in his place. (Well, at least make her forget about him for long enough to go home with you.)
    They're all based on a few basic principles. Basically, you want to create a VOID in her life by letting her see that her BF is not fulfilling her needs. Then you show her that you are precisely her-void-shaped and fucking you would make everything alright.
    First, if you BASH her boyfriend, she will get DEFENSIVE and support him. You've just anchored good feelings towards her BF and BAD feelings towards you. Bad idea. This even happens if SHE starts bashing her BF and you AGREE with her.
    Second, if you try to convince her that you are better than her BF, the same thing will happen.
    Third, if you talk about how awesome her BF is and exaggerate it to impossible proportions and talk about how they are destined to be together forever, this will cause her to re-evaluate her BF in YOUR TERMS... and be disappointed.
    Fourth, if you talk about how horrible a BF YOU would be, and why she would never want to date you, she will start to relate that to HER experience with HER boyfriend. It's sometimes also effective if you do this ironically, telling her how WONDERFUL you would be and then describing all your horrible traits as if they were ideal.
    Fifth, use future adventures projection to have her imagining the two of you together. Use this HEAVILY. I cannot stress this enough.
    Sixth, fractionate between a joking, tongue-in-cheek, "I'm just kidding" tone and serious, "Is he kidding?" tone depending on how into you she is and how attached she still is to her BF.
    Seventh, use false disqualifiers a LOT. Make excuses for why you can't be with her, especially ones that disqualify yourself. It helps if they are blatantly weak excuses. My favorite is that my other girls take up too much of my time as it is. Use these right after Future Adventures Projection too.
    Eighth, just pretend that the words "I have a boyfriend" have NO MEANING at all to you. Continue as if she never said it.
    Ninth, she is destined to be yours and you both know it. There is no element of NEEDINESS here.
    Combine these principles (and others that I've forgotten, and anything IN10SE would care to add) and you can create your own BF Destroying material on the fly. Here are some routines that I've created while talking to girls:
    (This is from a sarge with a SHB who is "kinda seeing" the manager of a trendy downtown club)
    Me: "You're a lesbian, aren't you!"
    Her: "I'm not a lesbian! But... er... I am kinda seeing someone. He's about this tall, dark hair [starts describing the manager, who I had seen her eating dinner with after the clubs closed the previous night]"
    Me: "Well, it's a good thing that I like him."
    Her: "Why?"
    Me: "Well, because otherwise I'd just steal you from him, take you to a desert island, and spend a week drinking rum, sun-bathing, and skinny-dipping with you. [I could have gone on with the future adventures projection, but I decided not to.] But that will never happen. So, tell me, how long have you been 'kinda seeing' him?"

    this isnt mine im not taking credit for it some articale i read some were. Hope it helps

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    Default Re: The Classic Test - "I have a boyfriend"

    Quote Originally Posted by bulldogg View Post
    Where in the world did you find that statistic? What experience? Lets us know where you got that nugget from...please so you can back this up!
    Easy dude. I never quoted a stat so using have to reference that. As far as my quote: there should be a "my" in front of experience. And what exactly doyiu want me to give you as proof of my experience? I've been in this board for a while, I've learned a ton since starting. I've had some great guys give me good advise and good constructive critism

    Now to explain my point: when a woman is constantly talking about her bf or husband talking about how great they are alot of time they are trying to convince themselves of it. As a result when you show th something exciting or new they will see how much what they have suck. Show them something fun and different. Just don't play into their game and don't adopt their frame.

    Look I don't claim to be an expert, but I have been doing this a while. If you don't agree cool whatever but tell me what you think don't just flame. Let's get better at this I'm here to help others and to get help.

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    Default Re: The Classic Test - "I have a boyfriend"

    Quote Originally Posted by tcomea2 View Post
    Easy dude. I never quoted a stat so using have to reference that. As far as my quote: there should be a "my" in front of experience. And what exactly doyiu want me to give you as proof of my experience? I've been in this board for a while, I've learned a ton since starting. I've had some great guys give me good advise and good constructive critism

    Now to explain my point: when a woman is constantly talking about her bf or husband talking about how great they are alot of time they are trying to convince themselves of it. As a result when you show th something exciting or new they will see how much what they have suck. Show them something fun and different. Just don't play into their game and don't adopt their frame.

    Look I don't claim to be an expert, but I have been doing this a while. If you don't agree cool whatever but tell me what you think don't just flame. Let's get better at this I'm here to help others and to get help.
    I understand your points but when someone throws out "statistics" I just would like to find out when and how they got them - is that such a crime?

    I see this all the time on forums where guys will pull all kinds of stats or info from who knows where and you are like "is that real?" - hey we are all smart guys here so why should we also not be curious right?

    I have been doing this for quite a while too and from what I have found is that when a chick tells you they have a boyfriend, there is not much you can do. We can all try and think "oh I can reframe this or that" but in reality it does not work. I have been in this community for a number of years, tried this reframing thing a couple of hundred times and its never worked for me nor my friends that have been in this community. You can show them something fun and different but what game are you playing into? If they have a boyfriend, they have a boyfriend - that's not a game. If you are a realtor I told you I had a house and you said, no you have an apartment and you should buy this house , and I say, no I have a house already - is that a game?

    I realize that there are women that do play games but overall, most hot women do have boyfriends. Why would they not? And do you think any "game" techniques are going to really change that? In the almost 10 years I have been in this I have never really seen that (besides maybe a weekend in Vegas or something but that's rare too)...

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    Default Re: The Classic Test - "I have a boyfriend"

    Well our experiences are far different. I think alot has to do with permission factors and allowing yourself to go afterthat. You don't believe you can close a girl who has a bf, I do and I have.

    Not saying it's easy, or that I'm better cause I have. Just different experience.

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    Default Re: The Classic Test - "I have a boyfriend"

    Quote Originally Posted by tcomea2 View Post
    Well our experiences are far different. I think alot has to do with permission factors and allowing yourself to go afterthat. You don't believe you can close a girl who has a bf, I do and I have.

    Not saying it's easy, or that I'm better cause I have. Just different experience.
    I do not see it as a permission factor at all. That just makes no sense. Its on the woman's part. If she gives you permission than its a go. Hell I give myself permission to buy a new house right now but the bank will turn me down (their permission) because I cannot budget a new house based on their lending factors. I tried it last month.

    I believe I can close a girl who has a bf, but I do not think it is going to happen (as per my experiences). It has nothing to do with belief (that is pie in the sky) its all about reality and whether it can be done.

    And the more attractive the women, the harder it will be to close if possible at all.


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