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    yesman Guest

    Default funny, good noob story.. will def create some great discussion!

    sry its long, but I feel we will all get more out of it if I tell the whole story.

    My friendís birthday downtown San Diego, we have a group of 5 guys at bar with live band. Ive been single for 1.5 yrs after being in relationship for 9 yrs, until about 1 month ago I have had virtually no success with the ladies until the last month. Been studying PUA on and off the last yr, one thing that has really helped me is hanging out with other guys who are good at picking up girls, but PUA info has been amazing! This is my 2nd or 3rd success story:

    So one of the guys in my group i used to work with, have never hung out with opens up a brunette and a blonde that looks amazingly close to gwen Stefani, the brunette that is a 9. ill call her Jennifer cuz she kinda looks like Jennifer love hewit. hes chatting to the brunette for 5-10 mins while the blonde is just standing there so i come over and introduce myself with the intent of opening Gwen Stefani and not interrupting my friend and Jennifer.

    as im about to introduce myself to Gwen, Jennifer jumps in and says her name and i tell her mine and immediately turn to Gwen and ask what her name is and Jennifer interrupts and quizzes me on what her name is, i smile and tell her that she busted me and to be honest i didnt hear it clearly because the band is so loud.

    she says, "but you pretended like you heard it and you never asked me to repeat myself?" (in my head im thinking oooo i think i might like this girl)

    i start laughing confidently and say, "well to be honest, i came over here to meet your friend, it looked like you had a connection with my buddy and i didnt want to interrupt you two."

    she, "your friend is annoying, i dont like him at all." (he is standing just out of earshot) she gives me some more shit about how i didnt listen for her name. i joke it off, tell her it was nice to meet her and try to talk to Gwen and she pulls me back after a cpl more secs I start to leave she grabs me and tells me to start over and pretend we never met. at this point the other guy is standing off to the side now, looking pissed lol. He shut down and stopped talking as soon as I got there. In his defense it was very loud.

    i have to decide if i should leave her for a min to save him so much embarrassment or just keep going, i say fuck him and his hurt feelings and keep moving forward, because she is doing a really good job at attracting me to her. about 15 mins later he walks by both of us and says nice cockblock with a scowl and i laugh he keeps moving. within 20 mins i have her in another part of the bar making out we hang out at the bar for about 2 hours have amazing time. go to vip section with our own couch for about a half hour played with pussy and tits. shes loving everything.

    so my first question is, was i disrespectful to my friend/acquaintence? do i owe him an apology? my thoughts: i dont think i did anything wrong. she simply wasnt into him and was into me and there was very little I coulda done to save him embarrassment. also I learn the next day he has a girlfriend.

    My friends leave without saying bye, cuz im busy, bar time comes we are outside on street, me the 2 girls, and one other guy that Gwen met. Gwen gets rid of the other guy and Jennifer tells me that they have hotel room (at very nice hotel) and we get cab, go there having tons of fun, shocked at how much we have in common. also, Gwen has been hating on me a little bit all night because she cant stand watching me touch Jennifer. Turns out Gwen has a crush on Jennifer, i forget to ask if they have ever fooled around for some dumb reason. On the way there I warm Gwen up a little bit and she is starting to like me too.

    Jennifer and I get wild in the hotel elevator and hallways for about a half hour while gwen leaves to hotel room. Woulda been a great time to try and get them two to kiss in retrospect. at this point i havent asked enough questions it turns out. we get to hotel room and i walk in to see a dark hotel room with 6 people in beds and on floor! (3 of them big white guys!) im like wtf!! then i turn to the right and see an adjoining room with gwen in skimpy clothes (im like jackpot!!! our own room) however, Jennifers sister is at the door yelling about how shes not answering her calls, and how she ditched her friend (Gwen) and who the fuck is this guy?! i calm the sister down, slightly win her over, convince her its ok i stay she goes back to bed (im feeling quite proud of myself at this point)
    i convince them to let me smoke the last of their nugs, massaging Gwen's feet, Jennifer takes off all her clothes except pink undies and changes in front of us into phillip rivers jersey (she works out 7 days a week and has amazing body, rock hard abs and arms some extra info for those of you jacking off rt now haha) Gwen starts talking about how she wants to eat Jennifers pussy.

    im fooling around with Jennifer some more, once again my failure to ask the rt questions gets me into a tricky situation. im being a little bit too loud feeling confident, (had deadbolted the adjoining room), all of a sudden the other side of the room another adjoining door opens with a big girl in it yelling WHO THE FUCK IS THIS GUY?! Im like you gotta be fucking kidding me! I had no idea there was a 3rd room. i try to calm her down, dont do a very good job, pretty much ignore and laugh at her after I realize im not making much headway (in retrospect I shoulda tried way harder to win this girl over).

    my girl goes to the bathroom with door open, so i go in there, we close door and start fooling around with her on the counter, door slams open and its sister again and shes raging, "GET THE FUCK OUT! BLAH BLAH BLAH" over and over, my girl is terrible at standing up for herself, i just decide to say ok ill leave no problem, take my time, hop in bed with the Gwen and Jennifer for a min give Jennifer a long kiss goodnt in front of her sis and the other hag. they are gettin more pissed by the moment. i get up get shoes on hop in bed again for another kiss hahaha. then i sense its time to leave i walk out slowly and sis tries to close door on me and i yell "Jennifer I love you!!" and laughing super hard (hopefully she got the joke, kind of a risky joke).

    im walking down hallway hear door open I look back, itís a 6'5" built guy looking at me, i say, "whats up" he doesnít say anything and i hear sis say, "cmon hes not worth it" and he goes back in. i get down to lobby realize i dont have her fuckin #! I go back up to the floor they are on and realize I can only narrow her room down to 3 rooms cuz I was drunk and not payin attn. so I decide to just leave and walk to buddies without knockin on any rooms. TERRIBLE FUCKIN ENDING TO A SUPER FUN NT! Well better than getting my ass kicked I guess, lol.

    Also, earlier in the nt, about a half hour in she took out her phone and without a word handed it to me. i was feeling over confident and stupid and didnt tell her to call me or text me immediately so i had her #, so she has mine but id be shocked if she calls or texts. tell friend story, he tells me go find her on facebook, 1st name is slightly unique and i know age (24). find her quickly using friends acct (i dont have facebook acct) so now what to do. Thank you internet!

    My plan: create face book acct in a couple days (been meaning to anyway) and send her a message, however now im thinking this will be a little too weak. (stalkerish)

    what are some things i did wrong? What did I do right? i know some answers to this question and will share my perspective later in thread (way too long of a post already) but would love to hear others opinions of course. one thing i did wrong was get too drunk!! oops

    Any tips on how to handle people like the sister or big friend?

    what should I say in the facebook message and how long should i wait?

    thanks!
    yesman

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    Default Re: funny, good noob story.. will def create some great discussion!

    well i think u probably left some drunken details out. after they freak out the first time, they should usually back off. you must have been loud or something for them to keep bothering you. i mean NOT LOCKING THE BATHROOM DOOR was a mistake. shit u need to think of these things and yeah whenever you hear "shes got a crush of her friend" thats signal for lets get a threesome going. and fuck that guy. next time bring me out. that 6'5" mother fucker comes out at me and is totally getting laid out right there in front of that bitchy little sister lol. but probably only cause im the same size :P. but yeah overall you def. held such a confident frame and thats great. played cocky funny good. definitely worked keno like a champ and yeah you shouldnt worry about ur friend. just tell me what she said and that u just tried to save him embarrassment. but in all words. you didnt do much wrong except probably being loud and disturbing in the hotel room when people are trying to sleep.

    overall ill give you an A cause you fooled around and if not for a bitchy sister and fat friend, you would have gotten a threesome out of the deal!!!
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    yesman Guest

    Default Re: funny, good noob story.. will def create some great discussion!

    Quote Originally Posted by crobinson1 View Post
    well i think u probably left some drunken details out. after they freak out the first time, they should usually back off. you must have been loud or something for them to keep bothering you. i mean NOT LOCKING THE BATHROOM DOOR was a mistake. shit u need to think of these things and yeah whenever you hear "shes got a crush of her friend" thats signal for lets get a threesome going. and fark that guy. next time bring me out. that 6'5" mother farker comes out at me and is totally getting laid out right there in front of that bitchy little sister lol. but probably only cause im the same size :P. but yeah overall you def. held such a confident frame and thats great. played cocky funny good. definitely worked keno like a champ and yeah you shouldnt worry about ur friend. just tell me what she said and that u just tried to save him embarrassment. but in all words. you didnt do much wrong except probably being loud and disturbing in the hotel room when people are trying to sleep.

    overall ill give you an A cause you fooled around and if not for a bitchy sister and fat friend, you would have gotten a threesome out of the deal!!!
    THANKS FOR THE RESPONSE crobinson1! And thanks for that other thread that has the texting starting off, hi wifey pants all this time apart is definitely putting a strain on our marriage! very impressive texting game, i know the perfect girl to use it on. if ur ever in san diego send me a pm would def like to go out, and learn from you. plus im 5'11" and 170lbs with no fight training, but im realizing i might want to learn some fight moves now that im good with women.

    yeah i agree made so many mistakes at the end of the nt cuz i was drunk and new to these types of situations. i give myself an A until i got to the hotel room, and then i give myself an F. never thought about failing to lock the bathroom door until you said that and was thinking that would have been perfect but then again, maybe her sister woulda woke up her guys at that point and i may have been facing a few big guys lol. shoulda conviced her sisters friend i was leaving soon and to go back to bed. boy did i learn a lot.


    slight update and considering a new game plan:
    turns out she works at a casino (according to facebook). in the poker room i think she may have told me this but i dont remember and i doubt she will remember either. i do remember her sayin she plays poker at mult casinos so i think im going to go play at the casino she works at and see if i run into her and say i didnt know she worked here and what a lucky coincidence. comes off as way less stalkerish than the facebook acct. plan.

    plus i think sending a message to her immediately after i create the facebook acct. isnt that strong of a move. i think im way better off going to the poker room and hope i run into her, but i think i should wait a while b4 i go.

    any thoughts? should i tell her i remembered she worked there and figured id take a chance and go play? or should i tell her it was a coincidence? also, i was a professional poker player for 2 yrs and i told her this so my story should make sense. however, i barely have time to play anymore so i would prolly only make 1 attempt, maybe 2 if i won $ the first time.

    any advice would be greatly appreciated. i kinda feel like either way will work to get a 2nd day with her and the facebook way would be way easier and quicker cuz i prolly wont make it up there for a while in order to make it seem more like a coincidence. cant decide which route to take. also i have only had successes in clubs and bars, i might not be as pua strong at the casino especially if she is playin instead of working.

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    Default Re: funny, good noob story.. will def create some great discussion!

    oh shit. i think i may have to come down and steal this one. im a poker player, seeing girls who are hot and play poker gets me going :P. yeah that is a pretty good idea, you can play it off like you dont even have a facebook (which you dont) and you cant remember too much cause ur so drunk. then run back into your routine. maybe you can get lucky enough to get a piece of that on her break. but yeah you could def. play it a lot less stalkerish even though this is worse cause we know the facts, but since she doesnt yeah i think ur good.

    hahaha oh yeah im 6'4" 240. with little fight training from being a sparring partner with my friends that fight. but no doubt, i have friends from san diego and i know 3 targets i need to get back into touch with that said if i was ever in diego they would go out. im sure i can get some more out of them. hell yeah if i come down ill let you know for sure
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    Default Re: funny, good noob story.. will def create some great discussion!

    Never underestimate the PUA power in a casino! Lol one of my best pulls came from our casino here in town.

    If you go that route just make sure that you stick with your story cause if she finds out that you came there to find her and get at her again, she is going to be turned off, and probably freaked out a bit. Do it carefully. If she starts to show you attention and remembers you then if I were you I would play like you don’t remember much from that night cause you were so drunk and just play off her emotions.

    Good luck

    Oh and btw, unless your going to marry a chick, don’t get into a fight over a woman. Its very weak, boyish, and down right AFC. Unless of course she is in danger or something like that, that’s a whole different story. But in that situation or a situation where a guys I trying to AMOG you need to turn the table on him and get him to qualify himself to you. Try some Amog lines and see if that helps.

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    Default Re: funny, good noob story.. will def create some great discussion!

    i couldnt say it better. so just play the part perfectly and ur set. and yeah fighting is no good. but if some guy gets in my face, im not just sitting there. haha but other than that u should be good.

    good luck
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    Default Re: funny, good noob story.. will def create some great discussion!

    Just wanted to say something about your initial question regarding the friend (I'm a little late to this party):

    I generally come down on the whole bro's before hoe's side, but:

    1) You didn't steal his target.
    2) He was being a d1ck about it.

    If he can't figure out that she wasn't in to him, or he can't let it go, he isn't a dude you want around.

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    yesman Guest

    Default Re: funny, good noob story.. will def create some great discussion!

    awesome advice guys thanks a lot! i wasnt quite sure how to pull off the casino thing, so i decided i was going to facebook message her. but now that you gave me a good plan for the casino im tempted again to go that route. if i go facebook, ill send it in a cpl days, here is what i have come up with to send, any advice would be awesome!

    Hi cutie! i left in such a rush i forgot to get your #!! i told a friend the funny story of getting kicked out and she gave me the idea to look you up on facebook since you have a unique first name. seemed kind of stalkerish to me but i figured what the hell, better than waiting to run into each other at a final table of the wsop!!

    my first time ever using facebook (been living in a cave without internet access), but i have been planning to create acct anyway because i just started my own real estate biz and networking is essential.

    we will have to get togetherr sometime and have some more fun! heres an idea of something we can do but we will have to wait a few wks til it opens. big bear mountain, snowboard all day, hope you can keep up im very good and have a lot of stamina! after snowboarding we go to one of the casinos they have up there and hustle some poker tables. have you ever played up there? easy money i bet!! cant remember if i told you but i was a pro poker player for 2 yrs rt b4 i moved to san diego so you might want to bring something to take notes with hahaha. we can get one of their cottages with a hottub, and bring some nugs of course. more snowboarding the next day fun fun fun!! you will have to show me around tho, never been to big bear but def plan on going a bunch this season and a few trips will be with groups of my friends, so we can go just you and i or go with a group. of course there are a million fun things to do in san diego too if you are not a fan of big bear.

    i think i need an ending line, maybe cpl more questions or another joke.

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    Default Re: funny, good noob story.. will def create some great discussion!

    Quote Originally Posted by yesman View Post
    awesome advice guys thanks a lot! i wasnt quite sure how to pull off the casino thing, so i decided i was going to facebook message her. but now that you gave me a good plan for the casino im tempted again to go that route. if i go facebook, ill send it in a cpl days, here is what i have come up with to send, any advice would be awesome!

    Hi cutie! i left in such a rush i forgot to get your #!! i told a friend the funny story of getting kicked out and she gave me the idea to look you up on facebook since you have a unique first name. seemed kind of stalkerish to me but i figured what the hell, better than waiting to run into each other at a final table of the wsop!!

    my first time ever using facebook (been living in a cave without internet access), but i have been planning to create acct anyway because i just started my own real estate biz and networking is essential.

    we will have to get togetherr sometime and have some more fun! heres an idea of something we can do but we will have to wait a few wks til it opens. big bear mountain, snowboard all day, hope you can keep up im very good and have a lot of stamina! after snowboarding we go to one of the casinos they have up there and hustle some poker tables. have you ever played up there? easy money i bet!! cant remember if i told you but i was a pro poker player for 2 yrs rt b4 i moved to san diego so you might want to bring something to take notes with hahaha. we can get one of their cottages with a hottub, and bring some nugs of course. more snowboarding the next day fun fun fun!! you will have to show me around tho, never been to big bear but def plan on going a bunch this season and a few trips will be with groups of my friends, so we can go just you and i or go with a group. of course there are a million fun things to do in san diego too if you are not a fan of big bear.

    i think i need an ending line, maybe cpl more questions or another joke.

    I would not mention that you left "in a rush" because that could be construed that you were nervous or scared of her home environment. That is bad if you want to hook up with her there again. Secondly, shorten the message a lot. You want something to remind her who you are, something short to explain why you are contacting her (best to use some sort of joke or anchoring to get her back into the pick-up frame and accomplish both of these objectives in one), and a suggestion that you should hang out soon.

    If/when she responds, you can then get her phone number and talk about other things in future messages.

    You want to keep it short because you don't want it to look like you put too much thought into it. You will look like you have become fixated on her, and you want to make it look like you simply had a good time, and you would like to hang out with her again.

    Finally, don't be surprised if she doesn't respond. A lot of women have a "peak". If you climb almost to the top, and don't get over the hump (ie. sex most of the time), she will write off the experience as a drunken fling, where she really "didn't have any feelings for you". Sex generally makes it too hard for them to write-off in their mind.

    Finally, I'd go for the poker pick-up first. You will likely have better results. tcomea2 has a good idea, of playing it off like you don't really remember her very well. That way you can judge her frame and play off that. If she is really receptive, you can start "remembering" things and escalating pretty quickly. If not, you more or less start where you started the night before, and try to build.

    Anyway let us know what happens.

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    yesman Guest

    Default Re: funny, good noob story.. will def create some great discussion!

    thanks gunsnglory awesome advice! exactly what i was looking for. gonna shorten it up and make those changes and re-post the message.

    if i go for the casino pick-up how long should i wait b4 i go there? there are a lot of poker rooms in san diego and she may not believe me if show up at the one she works at too soon. my guess is i need to wait at least 3-4 weeks. if i can come up with a legit reason of why im there other than just playing poker maybe i can go quicker.

    i agree the casino is more likely to work (if i can run into her), but im thinking its just too much effort, lol. oceans 11 is a ways from me, dont really have the budget for poker or the right friend to take with me. i think im gonna take the lazy route and set up a facebook acct and message her and see if it works.
    Last edited by yesman; 10-27-2010 at 01:28 AM.


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