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    thoughtcrime5 is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Help please. Failed attempt at HB 8

    I was out at a hookah lounge on a friday night with some friends. It was a club atmosphere with loud music, DJ, girls dancing.... I had shown social proof by greeting everybody I knew and had people coming up to me to say hi and I know the owners etc. Anyway a group of 6 girls and 2 guys were sitting behind us and I knew the guys and talked for a few minutes when they first came in. There is a blonde HB 8 that was showing me IOIs while I was talking to the guys but I went back to my seat and chilled for a while, She kept looking over her shoulder to look at me and I think her friend who was sitting across from her (brunette 7) were talking about me so I went up to them and opened kind of direct. I said hey I know this might sound weird but I had to come over and talk to you or I would regret it all night. Is it cool if I come over and chill with you for a few minutes? I directed it to the HB 8 She said yeah so I sat right next to her and asked a few opinion questions and talked about where she went to school and stuff. She was kind of giving a Bitch Shield like she was acting like I wasn't worth her time so I neged her in a joking way. The whole time she was giving mixed signals. She kept playing with her hair and she was brushing my leg with hers and she was fake laughing at my jokes but she also was kind of ignoring me and giving short answers. She also had her legs crossed away from me. So I talked to her friend (hb 7) for a few minutes and excused myself and went back to my friends. When I left an hour later I said bye it was nice talking to you and she pretended like she didnt hear me. Wtf?

    I know I messed up by going right for the target. What else could I have done better?

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    VisiniR is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: Help please. Failed attempt at HB 8

    Hi thoughtcrime

    I am giving my opinion about it:

    Opener: Weird and regret
    This kind of words are quite negative, I didn’t like these ones on HB>7. This is so reinforced their own really, that I am a hot chick and u are another guy with no value who don’t have girls of my quality in you social circle.

    Also the opener has been done after u assume a lot of things and u were to attached to her signals of interest. Looking over shoulder is huge and u did react >> U should act (not react) and maybe do it like pushing her on the limits (physic contact on the start and trying traps to her start qualifying to u).

    Even this is not working u should use her Bitch Shield and signals like brushing your leg, after that you should done sexual escalation frame or just Takeaway (if shied was show more than once) and engage another girls form other group and maybe after come back with just POWER in your intent.

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    thoughtcrime5 is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: Help please. Failed attempt at HB 8

    Thank you for your response. I think I should have said something like beauty is common... look around, is there anything that makes you different from everybody else? in order to make her qualify to me. Is that line used too much though?
    Last edited by thoughtcrime5; 02-19-2011 at 11:35 AM. Reason: w

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    VisiniR is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: Help please. Failed attempt at HB 8

    I mean not to express that directly to her, but have it in your Mindset.

    I think u did not get physical with her and if she does (w/ Bitch Shield) u should notice that right away (leg rubbing) and say something like:
    “… I think u should be careful with your naughty leg… I see… u are a smooth female player arent’ u? I am not into that…”

    Depends on her answer u should bombard her with routines, A crown routine follow by bad little sister and go along with The Vibe

    Take Care

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    Default Re: Help please. Failed attempt at HB 8

    I dont think you should ever ask to hang out with a set. You should use your social skills to get the set to accept you without having to ask them directly. When i feel a Bitch Shield i ignore it and continue to build comfort with other individuals within the group by making them laugh and making them feel comfortable around until the point where they want you to stay. Well atleast that is my strategy.


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