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    Magnetysm is offline PUA in Training
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    Default 2nd Field Report, FAIL

    Alright, so this is one I was planning on doing for about a month, ever since I saw this gorgeous girl in the grocery store. The idea came to me then (as simple as the idea is), but I chickened out.

    Today, I was in the same grocery store and I saw another absolutely gorgeous girl, or as I think the community says, a HB10. This girl was about as tall as me, of indian/middle eastern origin, in tight fitting sleek black pants with a white coat, and a covering of resplendent raven black hair that contrasted perfect with the deep purple and black hues of her make-up, as well as her natural desert-rose cheeks. The first time I passed her, she was browsing the bakery and another guy was standing near her. I ALMOST stopped and said, "Hey, are you two together???" after which I would have done my thing. But fear got the better of me and I kept walking. I grabbed a couple more items and then went back toward the checkout line where she already was. I knew the checkout line was not nearly as ideal of a place to talk to her, but I wasn't going to miss a 2nd opportunity. I got behind her and one of the other check out people motioned to me that they were open. I then motioned to them that I was going to talk to the girl in front of me, a motion for which I got some puzzled expressions.

    Just a few seconds after I got in line, I spoke and said, "Hi, I'm Magnetism(real name used instead)" and I put out my hand to shake hers. She offered her hand and said "Hi, Magnetism" but everything else about her body language said "Fuck off". I'm no expert at body language, but I was fairly sure I was reading that right. In any case, this wasn't about getting a date so much as it was just facing the fear and saying something, anything. So after I introduced myself, I said, "I'd like to take you out for sushi."--very direct, I know, and probably not ideal, but I'm an amateur--she quickly replied, "I'm engaged." and then I think I said something to the effect of, "OK, I just saw you here and I had to ask," after which she didn't say anything else. So then I stood in the line for another couple minutes behind her, nice and awkward like (which is why it would have been much better to ask her in the bakery), and she finally checked out and left. I kept my smile, I kept my upbeat mood going, and I finished checking out as well.

    After I left, I felt really good. I remember how much I regretted not talking to the first girl I saw there, so I was really glad I found the nerve to do it this time. I'm thinking of trying this a couple more times and if I only get repeated failures, then I'll have to think of something different to say. But in any case, right now, just finding the nerve to talk is a success for me.

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    Default Re: 2nd Field Report, FAIL

    congrats. it's a start. I'm pretty technical, don't have a lot of balls for going direct. But my success rate for when I do has been pretty good. I think if we spent a little more time practicing direct, it would do wonders for all other aspects of our game.

    Going direct in a checkout line is challenging. She could be just as embarrassed by your advances as the other people around you. Best to comment on something situational to get conversation going (and make sure you're facing shoulders parallel to the checkout counter (so you're talking to her with your head to its side). She's likely facing the same way or slightly away towards the end of the bagging are (angled away from you). And then maybe catch up to her on the street and go direct (but even in that case, there will be body language challenges to ovecome).

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    Default Re: 2nd Field Report, FAIL

    Quote Originally Posted by JonTylerDiPrince View Post
    congrats. it's a start. I'm pretty technical, don't have a lot of balls for going direct. But my success rate for when I do has been pretty good. I think if we spent a little more time practicing direct, it would do wonders for all other aspects of our game.

    Going direct in a checkout line is challenging. She could be just as embarrassed by your advances as the other people around you. Best to comment on something situational to get conversation going (and make sure you're facing shoulders parallel to the checkout counter (so you're talking to her with your head to its side). She's likely facing the same way or slightly away towards the end of the bagging are (angled away from you). And then maybe catch up to her on the street and go direct (but even in that case, there will be body language challenges to ovecome).
    Yeah, it was a real bad approach angle. Her back was almost directly to me. I definitely need to try this approach again in a more ideal situation. Thanks for commenting. Input is always appreciated. On another note, I had a girl tonight that was rather friendly with me at dance class. But at the same time, she mentioned she had a boyfriend. I'm guessing picking up girls with boyfriends is an experts-only game so I'll probably have to wait a while on that one.

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    Default Re: 2nd Field Report, FAIL

    having a boyfriend doesn't matter... if you do everything right.

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    Default Re: 2nd Field Report, FAIL

    Quote Originally Posted by JonTylerDiPrince View Post
    having a boyfriend doesn't matter... if you do everything right.
    What's a good beginning resource I can read that will give me a general outline/field map for doing everything right in such cases? Thanks.

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    Default Re: 2nd Field Report, FAIL

    good question. Generally speaking, you don't want to go about determining whether they are in one. You just want to operate under your own motivations as if everyone was single. You're right you do need pretty tight solid game to get it right.

    I don't think there is much material that focuses specifically on cases where a girl is in a relationship, because seduction generally pays no mind of it. Maybe it's out there, IDK. Anyone else?

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    Default Re: 2nd Field Report, FAIL

    Quote Originally Posted by JonTylerDiPrince View Post
    good question. Generally speaking, you don't want to go about determining whether they are in one. You just want to operate under your own motivations as if everyone was single. You're right you do need pretty tight solid game to get it right.

    I don't think there is much material that focuses specifically on cases where a girl is in a relationship, because seduction generally pays no mind of it. Maybe it's out there, IDK. Anyone else?
    Well, the material can be general to all cases. I'm just looking for good intro PUA material. So far, the only books I've read are The Game and The Concise Art of Seduction. There's so much stuff out there that it's hard to know what's worthwhile to read and what's not.

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    Default Re: 2nd Field Report, FAIL

    If you want a workbook of sorts, I recommend Strauss's follow-up "Rules of the Game." It's not comprehensive, and I haven't finished it, but it puts things into use. Magic Bullets is the closest thing I've found to the material I learned in a bootcamp from a "competing" company. Their "Triad" model (which makes me sick just thinking of everyone's fuÁking different models, which all basically cover the same thing with a phase switched out or around here and there). Venusian Arts Handbook, newest edition. If you read more than those three, you'd have read too much.

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    Default Re: 2nd Field Report, FAIL

    Thanks, bro.


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