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    Default Lots of IOI, I know what went wrong. Give me some input.

    Alright, Iím not as professional as you guysÖ yet. But thereís this one girl, which I accidentally chased. Yeah I know, youíre not supposed to chase girls, but it all kind of forced my hand.

    I met this HB7 in class. Took an interest in her immediately, used indirect means to acquire her number. Asked her in front of her friends to go to the renaissance fair with me, they all said yes, but I knew all of them were busy except for her. Changed the date last minute, they all flake and my primary target is obtained. Obtained a lot of ioi from her, she keeps on bumping into me, she obsessed over my age, and freaked the fuck out when she thought I was younger than her. We end up bouncing from the renaissance fair, to the beach, to her place.

    I didnít kiss close unfortunately. Her mom was there. Instead I did the AFC thing and walked with her and her dog at the park at night.

    We played the text game for a week or two. I asked if she wanted to hang out with me. Accidentally said that I liked her and that we should hang out, yeah I know, but I am essentially new to this. Once again, she freaks the fuck out and tells me that Iím too young/ better off as friends.

    Being the sometimes uncompromising bastard I am, I showed up in class, handed out a flower vase that I obtained from a fund raising event to her, told her that she attracted me in a poetic fashion, and asked if she was interested in just knowing me, whatever happens, will happen. She says yes.

    A week later, she texts me to go hang out on Friday, just the two of usÖ this miniature date of sorts goes well. We talk a lot. Once again I get a crap ton of IOIs, everything from her being jealous when some guy asked me for a kiss (Iím apparently a very pretty looking guy, as I get attention from both sexes) to telling me she feels like a teenager as we waltz about at the beach. I get compliance from her, and I read her like a book. Iíve semi figured her out. She knows next to nothing about me. We bounce to several places once again, and like the first time, itís another twelve hour thing.

    Yeah I know, Iím a rAFC.

    And no, I didnít kiss close.

    Weíve met again last night. I told her again that I liked her. Now weíre in the LJBF zone. I pushed the issue, because I started suffering from oneitis. Hesitantly she said no. Said I was too young/ not mature enough/ she was hard to open up. Strange that I still got compliance from her, I semi held her hand a bit even at the end. Even stranger is that she said that I was very cute, cuter than most guys that approach her, different and funny too, but not willing to be interested.

    Yeah, I know. Iíve read the game. Iíve telegraphed way too much interest, I supplicated, I didnít kiss close, I didnít build enough comfort, I appealed in a sense to her logic instead of emotion, I fucked up. I know, thatís not my question.

    My question is must I always go through the attract-seduce phase, STEP by STEP without her completely knowing that Iím interested, while all at the same time, playing her emotions, and natural weaknesses against her?

    Besides that, any additional tips any of you guys can provide?

    (Please note again, that I'm essentially new at this.)

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    Default Re: Lots of IOI, I know what went wrong. Give me some input.

    You can only hang out with a girl so many times before you have to try and kiss her. Once you've been out 2-3 times you have to just flirt with her like crazy and go for the kiss- if she's not interested then so be it, but you gotta take a chance.

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    Default Re: Lots of IOI, I know what went wrong. Give me some input.

    Quote Originally Posted by jkwan23 View Post
    You can only hang out with a girl so many times before you have to try and kiss her. Once you've been out 2-3 times you have to just flirt with her like crazy and go for the kiss- if she's not interested then so be it, but you gotta take a chance.
    Lies, on some of my first dates I've gotten kisses. As long as you can game her well and have good Kino Escalation then you shouldn't be having any trouble.

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    Default Re: Lots of IOI, I know what went wrong. Give me some input.

    On this one, Im going to have to say you waited too long. Although you can't chase her, (it has negative effects) you still have to let her know that friendship is not your goal. Kino Escalation is key in all situations. Make more physical contact. mention that you noticed her hair smells nice. When you go in to smell it, grab a handful softly, tug on it, and lightly bite her neck. This is Style's "evolution Phase Shift" and it works almost every time.


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