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    rbooks33 is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Probably still an AFC, texting HB, fearing friend zone

    Hey,

    Met this girl. Eye contact, we seemed to make nice small talk. She works near me. Stops in pretty much everyday since our initial meeting. On day 3 while I'm helping a customer, she writes her name and number and "call/text me bro, gotta go to work"

    I text same day (I know, I know) and she makes like "who's this" and later apologizes and continues the thread. She'll lead the texting, and I'm not just insta-replying, but sometimes I will, I keep it varied and unpredictable, usually as I reply quicker, she does the same.

    Texts are light, but lots of "dude" "man" in there.

    I tried to leave her hanging with this idea that I thought she was 'a puzzle' which she went with. Visited me at work and we started talking about this. She was giving some iois like leaning in, eye contact, smiling while I talk, stopping me mid reply to say "we're on the same wavelength" and playing with her hair.

    She talks a lot about other dudes, but almost as if they are a different kind of dude (if that makes sense) talks about all these guys that want to get with her but she won't give the time of day to. Says she feels like she can read dude's minds, and goes on about how she's blunt and she'll tell someone they're ugly to their face, etc etc.

    I complimented her maturity and said she seemed older (i'm 25, she's 19) and she seemed to like that, and I tried to self-disqualify by saying she was too cute and too similar to me to just be her puppy dog friend following her around (I called her out on having so many guy friends, which she mentioned, basically telling her they all just want to hook up with her, she agreed)

    It seems like everything she is saying is friend zone but all the physical stuff is ioi, and she's never come out and rejected me or said anything bad about me. She is usually the one starting text threads too.

    What should I do now? Follow up questions welcome.

    Also if there's an order that's best to follow with PUA methods, please let me know. I've grabbed a few audio materials and stuff, but I'm certainly not much more than AFC.

    Thanks!

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    steve456 is offline PUA in Training
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    Default Re: Probably still an AFC, texting HB, fearing friend zone

    Start flirting and building sexual Tension. Do not be afraid to lose her. I swear these younger lads make my blood boil. NO FEAR. just start complimenting her and try to get her out on a date.

    Mention a women you dissed because she was too needy....and now she's just 'ok' with sex. She doesn't mind just having sex with you with out the relationship. You don't want that. (this lets her know you get laid and you can turn down sex)(also, your sex must be good., your sex is good ,right? so advertise!) That makes you different that 98% of guys.

    Be interesting, talk about drama, girls love it.
    Use lots of eye contact, touch her and be FUNNY. ask her out.
    And don't be afraid that it won't workout. That's the killer in itself....BEING AFRAID TO LOSE.

    You can do it!
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    Anybody else need help? send me a direct mail
    Last edited by steve456; 06-23-2011 at 05:09 PM. Reason: typo

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    heavensentguy is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: Probably still an AFC, texting HB, fearing friend zone

    From my experiences with girls like that, they get their emotional fulfillment from more than one guy, but usually only sleeps with one. You want to be the one she sleeps with, not the orbitals that masturbate to her, spend money on dates and sh1t. Chances are the guy she's sleeping with is pissing her off, being to needy or aggressive and she needs a change. Take advantage of that and escalate - as Steve said - don't be afraid to lose her. They get off on the feeling that a guy could care less if he pays attention to them or not, just like we do when we're flooded with ioi's from HB's. That's my piece of advice. Regarding her calling you dude or man, turn it around on her, neg bro!

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    Default Re: Probably still an AFC, texting HB, fearing friend zone

    My experience with younger girls, especially since you are a few years older, is that they tend to want to seem mature to you. So this may be why she continues to bring up other guys as if they are only "other guys". But she also probably likes the attention from them. She is highly interested in you from your description of the ioi's however be weary of the young girls. She probably is hesitant with the whole jumping into the bed thing with you because she wants to prove her maturity with you and show you that she isn't like them other girls. You probably have to initiate the more sexual aspects of the relationship to allow her to open up to that aspect of it because she is scared you will think differently of her and look at her as just any other 19 year old. I met a girl online that is 20, and met a 19 year old via my little brother (I'm 24), and both girls told me pretty much the same thing.
    - They aren't like them other girls, and are more mature because of this that this that.
    - All these guys hit on them and they can't stand it because all those guys want is ass.
    They simply just don't want to feel like the typical 18-20 year old girl. They look up to you because you are older so they look for your acceptance and guidance.

    Another piece of advice is that girls that tend to bring up "other guys" a lot may be doing it to see if you care in the least bit by seeing if you will become slightly jealous.

    I also feel that her texting you and talking with you using the terms "dude" and "bro" is just her trying to connect with you on a more personal level.

    Hope this made some sense.


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