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    Unhappy Is there any way out of the dreaded friendzone?

    Hi there!
    This will kind of long post so stick with me, but it would be really nice if you guys could help me.
    So I met this girl online around December, but we were just chatting online, talking on webcam, nothing serious; but last tuesday (March 20) She wrote to me and started to get the usual business, casual chatting etc, but after some time she asked me like "I am cold how would you warm me up?" I was kind of shocked, but I went with it, one thing lead to another and after 30 minutes later I was hopping on my motorcycle and going over to her (around 30km so i was pretty much interested). We met and immediately she invited me to her place. We drank a tea and she started to giving me signals what is pretty freaked me out since I don't have much experience with girls and the last time I was this intimate with a girl was 7 years ago. (I am 21 she is 20 btw) She found it funny, that I freaked out and asked me to give her a massage, I were able to man up so I massaged her good she really liked it and after that we kissed and cuddled for an hour or two, but nothing serious happened. Stupid me fell in love. I couldn't sleep that night so I texted her in the morning how I enjoyed myself and we should meet up again soon, She turned it down but we texted a little and done. I did my first huge mistake the next night, when I couldn't sleep either and I wrote her a message and even wrote a poem which is really unusual for me, it was a pretty cheesy and emotional poem. I didn't wrote to her the next 2 days She didn't initiated a chat either. The third day I called her and casually talked she said she really liked the poem what i wrote, that made me pretty happy. The next day I want over to her place without saying a word with 2 flowers in my hand and wanted to invite her to go around on my motorcycle and have some fun. But She didn't picked it up. When I got home in the late evening I saw her massage asking why did I called her so I picked up the phone and called her again, and told her honestly why I was calling her she was pretty happy and said she really wanted to come, too bad she forgot her phone at home. So I went again the next day, without saying a word before again and spent some time together, she didn't had much time so we just walked in the park and ate a cake. On the next day she called me to go online because she wants to talk to me. So we started to talk on webcam and I asked her what she wanted to say, She said, that there is another guy who she might like, but it won't work with me, because I live around 30km from her (which takes around 15 minutes to get there so wtf? ) and because she can only think of me as a friend, and while she was saying that she was really emotional, when i started to write how I feel about it, that it is such a letdown and how i really like her and such she started to cry. Could you give me and advice what to do to make her think of me more than just a friend or is that even possible? And where did I went wrong , that she started to think of me as a friend?

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    Default Re: Is there any way out of the dreaded friendzone?

    She didn't feel the chemistry because you got nervous and didn't deliver that night you two were supposed to be intimate. So now she assumes love with you would be just that awkward all the time. She wouldn't be comfortable getting physical with you again. Only solution I use to get out of the friend zone is to ask her to come clubbing and then build physical chemistry. Try that but it seems you bombed really bad and first impressions may stick.

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    Default Re: Is there any way out of the dreaded friendzone?

    I agree with Sparta. His advice echoes the Rules of the Master PUAs. The rule is get the target to bed asap! Cus, if you don't someone else will.

    It seems you played the game pretty good at the opening, but your middle game got weak and you never closed.

    Spilling you guts and getting mushy is a serious mistake. Save that stuff for after you're engaged or married.

    Don't worry though. You'll do better with the next one and the one after that one too - I'm living proof of that. I was in your shoes at your age too, I'd fall in love with every HB I'd meet - and there were lots of them. Then one day I realized that I could control my emotions and still have very intimate relationships w/women.

    So, learn from this mistake and move on. You're young. Give yourself time to hone your PUA skills.
    Carpe diem!

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    Default Re: Is there any way out of the dreaded friendzone?

    Quote Originally Posted by thisisSPARTAAAA View Post
    She didn't feel the chemistry because you got nervous and didn't deliver that night you two were supposed to be intimate. So now she assumes love with you would be just that awkward all the time. She wouldn't be comfortable getting physical with you again. Only solution I use to get out of the friend zone is to ask her to come clubbing and then build physical chemistry. Try that but it seems you bombed really bad and first impressions may stick.
    She isn't that kind of girl who goes clubbing. I was thinking about making her jealous while we hang out, and acting like an alpha around her when we meet. Would that be a good idea?

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    Default Re: Is there any way out of the dreaded friendzone?

    Hi,

    I think this is too far gone, however ive been in the dreaded friend zone many a time. And trough practice, its easy to get out. I actually like keeping girls in the friend zone until im ready for them quite often... many MANY will disagree with this. However on this occasion she put you in the friend zone. And getting out, you have to be a sexual predator. Here is my method.

    Meet up and be cool, exciting and fun to be around. Make it seem like your different all of a sudden. Dress differently, if normally you were a T-shirt and jeans. Now you are wearing jeans, shirt, black polished shoes and a suite jacket (GQ STYLING). Hairstyle must be different but stylish, wear a crisp watch.

    Moving, when you meet her do not initiatie contact in the form of touching first you must make your intentions sightly clear. I really like to use this line i picked up from a book called revelation.

    You’re an extremely beautiful girl . . . and on a boy-girl level . . . [Deliver this totally chill and no-big-deal] I would love to fark the sh1t out of you. But . . . girl-boy dynamics aside, you know . . . all that aside . . . you . . . are absolutely . . . LOVELY. [Enthusiasm] I mean, you’re ONE OF US.

    Please note that the forums censorse words... i want you to actually use the proper words!! fark the Sh1t... the ar in fark is uc... just to be 100% clear.

    Once you have done this KINO,NEG the night away. Be cool be fun, and cut the nervouness bullsh1t. Practice before you go out by standing in the front of the mirror. Imagine who you want to be, make that person you, do not for a second think what if i mess up. You've messed it up anyway, this is your best chance.... for once take complete risk and say screw it, this is going to be an experience... then be proud as she goes down on you. Remember Kiss her when you notice she's ready for it. And act like its no big deal. Punish her for anything bad she says, and reward her with any good. Lead her to the right place.

    And for the sake of me writing this post, please jump right into it.
    Last edited by xcalibar; 03-30-2012 at 05:38 AM.

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    Default Re: Is there any way out of the dreaded friendzone?

    Wow! Thank you very much! I will try this the next time I meet with her, in the meanwhile I will try to improve my game, so I won't be nervous around her.

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    Default Re: Is there any way out of the dreaded friendzone?

    I don't have much experience getting out of the friend zone because after practicing PUA, I've basically never been in the friend zone with hot girls anymore. I always take my shots early when I meet them and they always either fark me, or I never hang out with them again cus that's just wasting my time. That said, I highly agree with xcalibar in that changing yourself is highly important. When you suddenly present her with a new image, you dressing way sexier than before, that can add a jolt that will divert her from friendship feelings. But I still believe that physical escalation and early in the meeting is key. The whole danger of the friend zone is that no matter how alpha you act, she has put up a barrier that blocks that from being effective. I believe that's why the friend zone is so difficult to escape. So find a way to get physical with her. If not in a club, then try the movies to put your arm around her.

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    Default Re: Is there any way out of the dreaded friendzone?

    Yes I agree with Sparta here if your looking to get with a girl, cut the friendship bullshit , get physical instantly. As I said i don't mind being friend zoned.. but I put them there, hence they will always have an awe of why didn't he try with me.

    This works for me, Im not sure if it will work for you.

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    Default Re: Is there any way out of the dreaded friendzone?

    There is a subtle technique in hypnosis called "subliminal suggestion." It only has a short term affect, but enough to redirct a situation.

    People will usually do the opposite of what you tell them depending on how you say it. Example: say this to someone: "What ever you do, don't think of the color blue." They will immediately think of the color blue.

    Say to your target, "What ever you do, don't think of my hot sexy body." Or say what ever you think you can get away with like: don't think of us kissing, making out, us naked in bed, or farking. Then, laugh and say, "Hey, stop thinking about it (she might blush). Anyway, I want you to come (pause for two seconds) to the movies w/me tonight." The pause after the word "come" also sends a sexual subliminal suggestion. It doesn't have to be the movies. It can be anywhere. Do some homewrk and find out what she likes. Good luck.
    Last edited by EMSaenz; 03-30-2012 at 09:30 AM.
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