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    Default Re: Hot Natural Comes into my Social Circle; Getting all my favorite girls!

    Even though it sucks for you, Siliconmagician, I loved reading this thread hahaha. ThisisSPARTAAAA gave some really solid advice multiple times and rounded it off with a great conclusion in his latest post.

    Yes it sucks that he's over there screwing things up. I honestly don't know what I'd do. It's good to remain alpha but when someone really farks up what you've been building for so long you have to close an eye and do the non-alpha sometimes. Maybe find a way to get him fired.

    I don't think he's alpha either because he really doesn't leave the women better than when he found them and tells other people about his lays. Also, an alpha is loved by all sorts of people, not just the women.

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    Default Re: Hot Natural Comes into my Social Circle; Getting all my favorite girls!

    Quote Originally Posted by thisisSPARTAAAA View Post
    Why are we ragging on this guy? From what I can tell, he's got soo much skills with women that he's becomming dysfunctional in other places! That's impressive and if the women at your hotel were hot then this guy is some real impressive stuff! He's a jerk; he's an alpha; he's making people jealous; that's what we all came to PUA to master! Another impressive part is that after doing so, he avoided confrontation with the guys who disproved! He's got social skill up the wazoo! Come on, we all secretly wish we could start work somewhere and bang up every beautiful woman working there as well; even if it causes us to be fired in the end, it's worth it! Makes you feel like you came, you conquered everything, you left. Learn from this guy; don't hate on him!
    You're not the one who has to deal with the social fallout, that's the issue. Believe me I really like the guy, he brings tons of hot chicks into the bar every Tuesday and Friday night and I'm getting my game on right next to him and he wings for me. But these are outside girls brought in for this purpose. I LIKE the guy don't get me wrong. I'm angry at the social harm he's brought to a place I spend more time in than my own home. That is the issue. I realize I'm probably being hypocritical but there is a lot of damage done by just losing the head housekeeper let alone not being able to have 2 of the best agents we have work together because they cat on each other the whole shift and the customer service suffers.

    I have a managerial responsibility to maintain the good order and social harmony of my crew for the good of the customer. We're not talking about some fleabag Ramada or Holiday Inn. We are one of the top properties in our region and #5 in our chain globally. We have a very professional crew and I'm probably the only male in the place who isn't truly bothered by it. I brought this exact argument up to the Day manager, who really hates the kid cause he stole the housekeeper from him. You think I'm salty? LMAO You oughta hear that guy bitch. lol

    No, my "hating" is strictly professional in nature and like I said earlier. If there wasn't a bunch of social harm and upheaval coming to my place making my professional life bad, I wouldn't be saying anything at all. Hell I don't have any room to judge him from player point of view. It's the professional harm he's causing that has me angry.

    Yes, these are all hot chicks. You don't hire ugs to be the face of your $15 million dollar hotel property. We have alot of hot Ukrainian and Russian Housekeepers,etc. I understand your argument and used it to defend the guy myself from the day manager who really is pissed at losing his girl. Me? I didn't lose anything. He took my favorite lay, but brought in enough pussy to hang at the bar I just got a couple new lays because he actively wings for me. I see it as a fair trade. This isn't a case of me being salty he's farking all the girls and I'm not. Please, I have enough pussy not to care. I can't say the same for my counterpart during the day. He's pretty hot over it.

    It's the social havoc I'm seeing as my team, my family, unravels and that affects customer service. So admire the dude all you want, just remember its easy to do that from afar without any responsibility for the day to day, or in my case, night to night, operations of a huge business. This goes beyond "Alpha asshole" and is talking about affecting the cash flow.

    Money before hoes man.

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    Default Re: Hot Natural Comes into my Social Circle; Getting all my favorite girls!

    Ahh, now I understand. You are his manager. Well, then, this is not really a PUA problem; this is a hotel management problem. Very few people on this forum will have hotel management experience to offer you because you are not asking how to improve your game with women; but how to deal with employee shenanigans in a top luxury hotel from a manager's standpoint. That is a whole new topic.

    As a PUA, he's untouchable; he helps you out a lot by bringing girls to the bar, and you appreciate that; that's great! The day manager is a loser. He should only be with his right hand; that is the only partner who could never be taken away by another guy. I would never be upset at losing my girl to another man because as far as I'm concerned, the question is not what did someone else do to undermine me; the question is whether or not I had the right stuff to keep her. But you make this hotel business sound pretty cool! If I lose my job, I will totally look into it! LOL

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    Default Re: Hot Natural Comes into my Social Circle; Getting all my favorite girls!

    Quote Originally Posted by thisisSPARTAAAA View Post
    Ahh, now I understand. You are his manager. Well, then, this is not really a PUA problem; this is a hotel management problem. Very few people on this forum will have hotel management experience to offer you because you are not asking how to improve your game with women; but how to deal with employee shenanigans in a top luxury hotel from a manager's standpoint. That is a whole new topic.

    As a PUA, he's untouchable; he helps you out a lot by bringing girls to the bar, and you appreciate that; that's great! The day manager is a loser. He should only be with his right hand; that is the only partner who could never be taken away by another guy. I would never be upset at losing my girl to another man because as far as I'm concerned, the question is not what did someone else do to undermine me; the question is whether or not I had the right stuff to keep her. But you make this hotel business sound pretty cool! If I lose my job, I will totally look into it! LOL
    Well, this thread started out as an advice thing but the situation has changed as the social situation has evolved and I'm not looking for advice so much as feedback from others who are socially adept and understand the ins and outs of social dynamics as PUA is more than just game, it's about social skills and how to manipulate those skills to our own gain not just for women but in all aspects of our personal lives and that bleeds over into the professional life as well.

    I didn't want to start a new thread when this one already exists. So I just appended on to it.

    and yes. The hotel business, if in the right property, can be a social boon. Your entire professional life revolves around social interactions on a personal level. PU is what makes me great at my job and having this job improved my game massively as one has to develop massive social skills to be successful in this business. So if you need an industry change, feel free to take a look into it. Hell if I had a choice I'd hire a bunch of players and hot chicks and everyone can orgy until dawn for all I care, but being the guy who has to look after the revenue, I have to take a bit of a stance against this sort of professional gamery.

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    Default Re: Hot Natural Comes into my Social Circle; Getting all my favorite girls!

    Your going to have to be direct and upfront with him about job professionalism, there are plenty of girls outside of work. Or have your boss start a policy against employee fraternization. Even if it cost you your friendship with him, you have a job to do and do you want the negative consequences to come your way from your bosses. I know plenty of corporations that will not allow managers to have friendships with subordinates.

    Now, as gaming goes and he is talking to a girl that interest you. Open another set, then either bring the set to him or him to the set to take his interest off your target.


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