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    Default Owen Cook [Tyler Durden]

    What's up Guys,

    So after some back-and-forths about different PU styles and methods I decided to spend more time looking into Tyler Durden. I hopped on Youtube and started viewing some of his inner game concepts and REALLY like practically EVERYTHING he has to say. Why does he get such a bad rep from The Game? Was it just personal conflict between Neil and him? Do you guys like his material? Just like to know your thoughts.
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    Default Re: Owen Cook [Tyler Durden]

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.onethousand View Post
    What's up Guys,

    So after some back-and-forths about different PU styles and methods I decided to spend more time looking into Tyler Durden. I hopped on Youtube and started viewing some of his inner game concepts and REALLY like practically EVERYTHING he has to say. Why does he get such a bad rep from The Game? Was it just personal conflict between Neil and him? Do you guys like his material? Just like to know your thoughts.
    All I know is that TD got me more poon than anything else. When I read 25 points the first time it was like a lightbulb went off in my head and after a month of practice I watched my success rate skyrocket.

    I've never read The Game. I came to the community by accident when my LTR I was in at the time began going South. Couldn't save the LTR, but I was getting laid quick right after we broke up. Within 6 months of our split I had women coming over and screwing me, dropping groceries at my door in offering as if I was a God while I upstairs in bed with another woman asleep, letting me borrow their cars to go out and get laid, all kinds of stuff.

    TD brought me that more than any other guy. So screw the haters. Strauss and those guys will give you some outer game, but only Inner Game will make you a natural.

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    Default Re: Owen Cook [Tyler Durden]

    I think it was definitely a personal conflict between him and Style. This is one of the reasons i didn't find 'The Game' to be such a good read - i couldn't help but pick out the bias comments he had written throughout it.

    A lot of Style's work is amazing, don't get me wrong, however TD didn't get the acknowledgement he deserved because Style degraded his image.

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    Default Re: Owen Cook [Tyler Durden]

    I felt Strauss gave Durden a lot of credit - both his theories about framing and AMOGing. While he didn't cast him in a positive light, he was honest about a lot of what Durden brought to the community.

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    Default Re: Owen Cook [Tyler Durden]

    Having now read the game I think Style and Mystery both were naive fools. I thiink style needed a foil, a bad guy for his book and TD was it. If anything was responsible for the downfall of Project Hollywood it was its own debauchery and Courtney Love was probably the sanest member of the household. That's saying something.

    Goes to show you. All the poon in the world doesn't make you a fully functional human being.

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    Default Re: Owen Cook [Tyler Durden]

    Neil is a writer. The Game is just as much a novel as it is a learning tool. Parts of the book existed because they are vital to a good story. A villain. Closure. The book ended with closure intended to bring an end to PU. It may not have been genuine, but it was necessary. Necessary as a book.

    They are living, breathing people. Each with their own flaws. The more I learn about both styles the further apart they get. It comes down to what you want, because they get you different things. I've used both, but follow Tyler now. I don't feel like I'm pretending to be someone I'm not. It's a personal preference and neither is superior. I've been working on my own model (book) for a couple years now and it takes bits and pieces from both. Neil did it right. Learn from everyone.
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    Default Re: Owen Cook [Tyler Durden]

    I feel the same way, learn from many sources. Strauss probably helped Tyler more than anything, by giving him free publicity. Good press, bad press, it's all press.

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    Default Re: Owen Cook [Tyler Durden]

    Hey im glad I came across this post. I agree, at least I've always portrayed t durden in a biased light, after reading the game last year.
    I think neil strauss gives him credit where its due, but knocks him pretty hard too. I think tyler just annoyed him, like he was always sarging and only started thinking that way all the time.. and never wanted to talk about much else, like he turned into a pua robot. While he came up with some great tactics, like the whole amog thing, seemed like he was doin it all for his ego and for the numbers alone.. but that's probably not a bad way in the long run I dunno.
    Anyways I'm gonna look up some of his stuff a little more soon.. u guys know any good examples/videos of his work or something?
    Thanks


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