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    Default Any Advice On Freezing out!

    As the title says. Advices on freezing out? i guess many guys as me have hard time to freeze and ignore girls. but dont want them to think your needy. but still afraid that the chicks wont call back or come after you. so post anything usefull! thanks

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    Default Re: Freezing out!

    Good question man. From my experience a Freeze out or Take away will only work if she kinda likes you to some extent. Just like buying a car. You wouldnt care if the salesman froze you out of the sale if you thought the car was lame.

    If you can build some value in her eyes so that all she really sees is fun, confidence and positivity from you, then at the height of this you take it away ie false time constraint or saying you need to do something etc. She is highly likely to chase you or be very open to your next interaction. Women dont meet interesting guys very often so she will want to see you.

    Hope this helps

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    Default Re: Freezing out!

    bro if u have the slightest attraction and u freeze out it will be magnified. when i decide gaming a chick i see often in college i use direct game at first and i don't number close! I freeze her the fark out for a week like i will intentionally walk next to her and pretend she doesn't exist or say hi in a low key voice. Then after the week's past i go talk to her as if nothing happend and then i number close almost instantly easy as that.
    "The world will never change much less become what you want it to be. The only thing that can change is you. Face your fears, grow stronger and become what you want to be."
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    Default Re: Freezing out!

    Quote Originally Posted by Indy27 View Post
    Good question man. From my experience a Freeze out or Take away will only work if she kinda likes you to some extent. Just like buying a car. You wouldnt care if the salesman froze you out of the sale if you thought the car was lame.

    If you can build some value in her eyes so that all she really sees is fun, confidence and positivity from you, then at the height of this you take it away ie false time constraint or saying you need to do something etc. She is highly likely to chase you or be very open to your next interaction. Women dont meet interesting guys very often so she will want to see you.

    Hope this helps
    yeah helped out alot man! i totally think in a diffrent kind of freeze out now. but still then i got problem for her to see me in high value. if you got any advices for make her chase me i would really appriciate it cause its this special girl that i wanted for 2 years now.

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    Default Re: Freezing out!

    Quote Originally Posted by xavier View Post
    bro if u have the slightest attraction and u freeze out it will be magnified. when i decide gaming a chick i see often in college i use direct game at first and i don't number close! I freeze her the fark out for a week like i will intentionally walk next to her and pretend she doesn't exist or say hi in a low key voice. Then after the week's past i go talk to her as if nothing happend and then i number close almost instantly easy as that.
    Thanks mate! i will ofcourse try this!

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    Default Re: Freezing out!

    Hey Dude,

    Tell us what you can about this girl and what has happened up to this point and we can try and work on raising your value in her eyes

    In the end it will come down to Alpha characteristics like dominance, leadership etc as well as humour, social proofing and most importantly getting yourself surrounded by hot girls. Not sure how much of this makes sense to you?

    Let me know what the situation is and we can go from there coz we may as well give it a goood shot!

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    Default Re: Freezing out!

    Quote Originally Posted by Indy27 View Post
    Hey Dude,

    Tell us what you can about this girl and what has happened up to this point and we can try and work on raising your value in her eyes

    In the end it will come down to Alpha characteristics like dominance, leadership etc as well as humour, social proofing and most importantly getting yourself surrounded by hot girls. Not sure how much of this makes sense to you?

    Let me know what the situation is and we can go from there coz we may as well give it a goood shot!
    thanks man for wanting to help me out! yes as i said ive wanted this girl in bed for 2 years now im in high school atm. we are both virgins. The thing i hate about her is because she is kind of shy person to person and its kinda like talking to your pet with her because sometimes u almost aint getting an answer. we have been texting and stuff but never went out together outside school. she is in my class btw. im not a suck up to her cause we have fought pretty bad. but actually she were the one saying i miss talking to u bla bla.... recently she had an crush on my best friend but he didnt want her and she got fuck mad on him. she is really sexy looking but still cute girl. she is not any party animal but not a geek if u know what i mean. ive been texting with her and said yeah lets go out saturday and get coffee w/e. with kind of winky winky smilies because i didnt want it to be to serious in case of rejection ( yes im pretty afraid of rejection ) but she was like ye sure winky winky hearts you know the story. and i told her what do u want to do. she was like ehhmm i dunno let me think what do u want to do! i answerd haha i know what u wanna do u wanna have sex she was like ahhh you really did go that far! haha we will see!
    and i thought to myself damn this is awesome. but then i have asked her like ye you wanna meet up with me have fun or what? she is like cant this weekend cant next weekend and so on.... we havent seen eachother for 1 week now and 1 week remaining until school starts again. and i got drunk this weekend called her a few times. but i told her sober that it was just drunk talk.but i called her and like hi whats up how you doing and so on. answers was hi watching movie fine then silence. then i said. yeah call me or text me when u are in a better mood and i dont wanna interrupt your movie bye and just clicked her. right after i got a text saying why did u click me?! and i told her like its not so fun to talk to you when you are that unsocial bla bla bla.... i know this girl wants to have sex badly she told me herself and i know i can give it to her good! i really think this girl is special and i'd love to take her virginity and so on. so after that ive heard on the freezing out. and make her chase me. so i said yeah well if you aint that shy or unsocial text or call me when you are feeling better else i got this girl paulina that comming over next weekend! ( i dont think this was the best move ) she havent answerd to that and i havent texted her back for 1 day now. ive got hard time freezing out this girl cause i think of her very often! oh and another " mate " rather class mate likes her much but they are really good friends and she told me she would be disguisted having sex with him. but they sit close all the time laugh and shit. and he is a really talanted hockey player same height as me but more muscles and really cocky. so i kinda need to alpha him out and raising my value as you said. still im pretty populare not coolest guy in school but im social and not a quiet dog. and im abit of afraid to game that girl in school because her hockey friend will just try to make fun out of me and bla bla bla aswell. its a really complicated situation as you may hear. but i think the only way i have a chance is comming here for advice! i would really love to have this girl in bed before she finds any other guy! so please help me asap! thanks in advance! <3

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    Default Re: Freezing out!

    Ok man nice one. Where to begin?

    Firstly she likes you to some extent. Secondly the drunk talk as you prob know wasnt the best thing to do but I dont think your chances are over. She wouldn't tell you about her wanting sex etc unless she has considered it with you. At least thats my experience. Its like they bait us with that info so we got after them. Some girls can say this to loads of guys just to boost her own ego but I dont believe this is the case here.

    You did well with that text message about sex haha. Its pretty direct but she laughed. The only thing is she is going to be scared. For her she is worried about giving it up to a guy that will just leave her feeling used and with everyone at school knowing about it. So best thing I would do is cut out all needy behaviour by believing that you really are a prize for her so she would be lucky to be with someone like you. Try to believe this totally! Also don't be concerned about that other guy as his world has no baring on your own. Just focus on you for now.

    Be direct with her and don't apologise for your actions when you do so. However, this does not mean putting her down or disrespecting her. If she gives you resistance see it more like its cute and funny, because really she is just a scared little girl. Just keep up the cocky funny talk, up your value by taking her somewhere where you are the man. If you are good at something this would be a great date. Then smoothly move it onto a softer atmosphere like a park in the evening and gently get physical with her. Hold her hand or kiss her if you feel the time is right.

    Before all this though I would make an effort to speak with her in person or call her up. Forget what came before. Get some light hearted banter going on and crack a little joke thats cute. Girls seem to love cute jokes. I used to be so direct that girls thought I was a bit too confident which put them on edge. I decided to them throw in a few light jokes at my expense and it work a treat e.g 'Hey..... was just getting attacked by my friends exceptionally small dog and thought of you' lol. Something silly and light hearted. Then just convince her to come out with you to a place you are the man. This will show your value to her. Then to a nice park and make some kind of small move. Then leave it to her. Tell her you enjoyed her company and you can be a bit cocky about how you know she loved it too lol. Then leave it alone. Go home. Forget about it and she should likely come calling you. The Freeze out or Take away will only work once she knows you are a joy to be around. You may or may not need to do that but one step at a time.

    At least this is what I would do. You just need to get her on a date so make it hard for her to say no. Tell her 'all I can promise you is the gift of my company and stimulating conversation' lol with a straight face. Why would she say no really? Only if you get needy or scare her away because you feel you need this so bad. Coz man you really dont!

    We all have our own strengths so play to yours. Always be the leader though, always know where you are going and guide her. She is on a journey into your life so show her how great a time you have. You are a man, you have testosterone. She has none, so take the bull by the horns and know that you are the one.

    Let me know if this helps man

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    Default Re: Freezing out!

    Quote Originally Posted by Indy27 View Post
    Ok man nice one. Where to begin?

    Firstly she likes you to some extent. Secondly the drunk talk as you prob know wasnt the best thing to do but I dont think your chances are over. She wouldn't tell you about her wanting sex etc unless she has considered it with you. At least thats my experience. Its like they bait us with that info so we got after them. Some girls can say this to loads of guys just to boost her own ego but I dont believe this is the case here.

    You did well with that text message about sex haha. Its pretty direct but she laughed. The only thing is she is going to be scared. For her she is worried about giving it up to a guy that will just leave her feeling used and with everyone at school knowing about it. So best thing I would do is cut out all needy behaviour by believing that you really are a prize for her so she would be lucky to be with someone like you. Try to believe this totally! Also don't be concerned about that other guy as his world has no baring on your own. Just focus on you for now.

    Be direct with her and don't apologise for your actions when you do so. However, this does not mean putting her down or disrespecting her. If she gives you resistance see it more like its cute and funny, because really she is just a scared little girl. Just keep up the cocky funny talk, up your value by taking her somewhere where you are the man. If you are good at something this would be a great date. Then smoothly move it onto a softer atmosphere like a park in the evening and gently get physical with her. Hold her hand or kiss her if you feel the time is right.

    Before all this though I would make an effort to speak with her in person or call her up. Forget what came before. Get some light hearted banter going on and crack a little joke thats cute. Girls seem to love cute jokes. I used to be so direct that girls thought I was a bit too confident which put them on edge. I decided to them throw in a few light jokes at my expense and it work a treat e.g 'Hey..... was just getting attacked by my friends exceptionally small dog and thought of you' lol. Something silly and light hearted. Then just convince her to come out with you to a place you are the man. This will show your value to her. Then to a nice park and make some kind of small move. Then leave it to her. Tell her you enjoyed her company and you can be a bit cocky about how you know she loved it too lol. Then leave it alone. Go home. Forget about it and she should likely come calling you. The Freeze out or Take away will only work once she knows you are a joy to be around. You may or may not need to do that but one step at a time.

    At least this is what I would do. You just need to get her on a date so make it hard for her to say no. Tell her 'all I can promise you is the gift of my company and stimulating conversation' lol with a straight face. Why would she say no really? Only if you get needy or scare her away because you feel you need this so bad. Coz man you really dont!

    We all have our own strengths so play to yours. Always be the leader though, always know where you are going and guide her. She is on a journey into your life so show her how great a time you have. You are a man, you have testosterone. She has none, so take the bull by the horns and know that you are the one.

    Let me know if this helps man

    Indy
    totally helps my way of thinking man! i just wanna say thanks cause this is awesome! still i wonder should i text or talk with her now and tell her it was drunk talk and bla bla bla?! and the thing with other girl i said "call me back when u in mood cause else i got another girl sleeping here next weekend" ? really what to do exactly at this point? cause i aint able to talk with her in person this week! should i still freeze out? ive havent talked with her for 2 almost 3 days now. so really at this point . and hey is this a light way to joke ? "hey i just heard black and yellow on the radio and the first thing that came to my mind was your smile haha ! "

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    Default Re: Any Advice On Freezing out!

    Haha I think any joke that is relevant to her without being offensive should be good enough. With the song 'Black and Yellow', Im assuming she knows it well? If so then yeah that's a good text to send but I wouldn't do that yet.

    Also what you text about the other girl sounds a bit like you are trying to make her jealous (which is good in some ways but only when you really got your hooks into her or else it will fall flat).

    From this point all Id suggest is send her a text that just says 'Poke '

    lol I think that's pretty funny and she will prob respond. If she doesn't respond within a day then send one more that says something to do with a nickname you have for her or some cute joke about her not wanting to reply lol. I once couldn't get a response from this girl so I came up with some GOLD my man. I text her what she is thinking about my text. 'Oh no Indy is trying to reach me and If I text back then he will text back and I don't know what I can then do to get rid of him. Hes such a cool guy but life is so hard' She burst out laughing and we hit it off big time from then. You could send one that says something like 'Oh no Erixzon is trying to reach me, after being so offensive to me last week lol. I know hes a great guy though, oh I guess I should give him another shot'. Haha love it! If she doesn't respond after that then she isn't worthy my friend!

    ANyway lets assume you get a response from the first text which I reckon you will. You want to get her on the phone or in person. Texting is just to get her on the phone. Maybe text her you've got something amazing to tell her. She might then answer your call. Then tell her you lied (in a funny way) lol and that you just wanted to speak to her

    When you speak don't apologise but be fun and light and say you really want to show her something and she will love it. She will ask what. You say you cant tell her but its great etc. Hopefully this should get you out on a date type thing. Then take her somewhere you look cool.

    Ok hopefully that helps man. Just remember no pressure, be light and playful, excite her about what you wanna show her and don't apologise unless it comes up and then tease her that she doesn't know how to banter

    Good luck man, let me know what happens.


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