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    Question First Date - How'd I do?

    Hey all sorry if it is a bit long.

    I met this girl at a friends birthday party. We chatted a little but she's a bit of a social butterfly so I did leave her to circulate. I mentioned to a mutual friend that I thought she was kinda cute and asked if she was single, she was.

    Later that evening I was chillin with a friend and I noticed she would glance in my direction. An obvious sign she'd been told what I'd said (AFC much?) anyway I thought It'd be best to cut the loss and move on. I said goodbye to her as I was leaving.

    1/2 after i left i received a text "guess who". I know it was her she sent two more texts telling me it was her before I got the chance to answer. We chatted a little that night, I negged about her too keen by messaging me so late and she got a little offended but I recovered.

    Since that night we'd text. (her initiating most of the conversations) and I set up a date. I took her to the beach. The problem I had was trying to get her to actually accept my Kino! She accepted a hand hold and a palm reading but besides this she remained a bit distant, always want to know what I was going to do before she'd go along.

    She does talk a fair bit and seem to be trying to justify herself actions to me. It appears she likes me except the body language is off, its really thrown me. perhaps I played it cool at the party and had good text game but come off AFC on the date?

    She gave me a real quick look when I dropped her off for about 1 second which I didn't K-Close. I decided she was maybe the type of girl who takes a little while to warm up and trust a person.

    What do you all think?
    - Is this worth pursuing or should I just cut my losses?
    - was she waiting for something at the end when I dropped her off?
    - Should I set up a second date?

    if anyone has some good ways to escalate kino that she'd be more likely to accept that would be great.

    Thanks,
    Harrison

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    Default Re: First Date - How'd I do?

    I'd go for the second date.

    I wouldn't take it personal that she was distant on the first date. Girls have different rules about how to behave on a first date.

    Seems like you should have gone for the kiss, though.

    She may think you don't like her because you didn't try to kiss her.

    I'd text her to test the waters and see how she responds.

    Lots of ways to build kino. Just keep reading about the subject in this forum. Just make sure you try out what you read.

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    Here's the thing about women and what most men fail to understand on this site and what very few books will tell you about. Women are always engineering the situation.

    Women know fine well when they want to have sex and when not.

    So many guys meet a girl and she's ripe but then worry about why she wont text or kino 3 days later because they did not pick her when she was ripe and they are expecting her to be ripe straight away next time. They then think some miraculous pickup line from a book or the Internet will get them running back on cue.

    You increase your chances by getting out there (it's a numbers game) and you increase your chances by being able to impress a women when she is ripe but you must completely increase your chances of observing if a woman IS actually ripe *(has she shaved her legs, what kind of dress is she wearing, how is she behaving, WTF is she texting now?).

    Being an alpha male is not always being some cocky bastard with gimmick lines and uber confidence - it certainly helps - but beyond baseline genetics it's also being the guy who is observant of cycles and being around women as often as he can to increase those chances. Look at birds of paradises - the male birds have to do an elaborate dance, sure, but it's the females that choose. It's almost always the females that choose in nature. So what bird of paradise wins? The one with the best feathers or the one dances in front of the most females? The best genes don't have to be passed on, the most successful ones are. 7 billion - its a numbers game. Physical strength or who texts who when is obviously not the ultimate key for humans. Its being at the right place at the right time and taking advantage of a situation more than anything else.

    That's why good PUA's know when to cut their losses. Moments. This is also true of nice guys - despite what you read there are plenty of nice guys who get awesome chicks. As well as d!cks. 7 billion people on this planet is again all the proof you need. A social butterfly knows all this very well. Don't try, let it be. She will come to you when she wants. You don't have to win, you just have to not loose. Start small and reveal yourself in an expanding spiral. That's how galaxies roll.

    Be observant and never hesitate if a women 'on heat' appears in your presence. Being a pickup artist means being an artist and famous artists are not known not so much for their tricks but their perception. An unripe fruit leads to bitterness, a ripe fruit to sweetness. Stop thinking about your own problems and start observing women more constructively.
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    Default Re: First Date - How'd I do?

    Ya man obviously u reeled her in a bit, since she reached out and texted u. I think its ok to ask a mutual friend if she's single, if you've gained some rapport and IOIs from her already.. its actually pretty alpha male- bold, and going for wat u like so who cares.
    Maybe she thought differently of u on ur date, maybe she's just a little shy and reserved, or maybe she's just givin u a 'test drive.' I agree with wd up there, girls have different first date rules (that they don't always keep) so no harm done. Unless it was painfully awkward, or u weirded her out.. which I don't think u did.
    Give it a little time, maybe text her somethin about the beach, and next time your out and about maybe ask her to join ya. String her along a bit, don't worry wat she thinks just show her ur dhv and keep it lite for now brotha.
    Cheers

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    Default Re: First Date - How'd I do?

    Hey all thanx for the advice. I texted earlier and there wasn't too much reply. I think I'll invite her out again but I'm not concerned if she says no.

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    Default Re: First Date - How'd I do?

    Cool man, keep it cool. Ask her to do somethin fun and casual, like a concert or a party, or whatever. Something a little down the road from now to keep up your Social Proof might be beneficial here.
    Good luck!


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