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    impling87 is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Coming out of the friend zone

    I was hanging out with a mutual friend for a while, it was when I was first starting the whole PUA thing, so I kind of boshed it. It was working well, I was getting IOI's left and right. The whole plausible deniability act, then I screwed up and showed too much interest and got friend zoned.

    Since then I've moved on, made sure she knew I was seeing new girls. When she couldn't hang out, I made sure to slyly mention that it's ok my "friend" is coming over and making me watch dance moms. I've been calling her my wingman and telling her "if she keeps wearing that perfume I won't be able control myself around her."

    she has now been giving me new IOI's. At a lunch she said nearly verbatum, "so what's up with you inviting some girl over when I can't come?" Which I just shrugged of with a unapologetic expression. She's been getting close, and having me feed her gum. However it's tough looking for IOI's sometimes because she isn't a kino kind of person. She said she may be coming over tomorrow, "but she would understand if I wanted to make other plans."

    What do you think? I am considering doing the movie and cuddle thing to go in for a kiss, if I can establish more KINO tomorrow.

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    Default Re: Coming out of the friend zone

    this girl may love the chase, sure sounds like it to me. i'd say to have her over and do a movie night, sounds like you guys have some strong sexual tension going already... so keep it going strong, but let her make the moves.

    ive definitely messed up with certian types of women (seductresses (TJR's in pandora's box)) by making an agressive move..and this is after what i had considered to have had a huge amount of sexual tension built with already..some women just wana seduce the fuck out of you until they are ready to bang.. shouldnt be too long for that tho after a few movie nights

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    Default Re: Coming out of the friend zone

    If what you have written is true then it sounds like SHE is in the friendzone.

    Many women are often described as 'unobtainable' but rarely men. But many men actually are unobtainable. There's no reason why anyone cannot become unobtainable simply by putting out lots of feelers but then never responding or even rejecting.

    I went out on a date with a young 21 year old HB10 about a year ago. I already had some good attraction going and I also knew she had a lot of other guys after her. I was a little concerned, however, about the age difference and given this girl was very smart and hopeful, I eventually steered away from persuing her that night. Instead i told her I couldn't see her further because I did not want to hurt her or play a person of her caliber in such a way.

    She was already falling for me on this 1st date and as much as I wanted to i just couldn't do it. I didnt have an adversion to sleeping with younger good looking girls but this girl was special, it was like atomic power. I could not face ever breaking the heart of this heavenly creature who was just too immature for me as a LTR and I did not want to cheat her into doing a ONS or dead end fling. I knew I would break her heart. Well as you can imagine this sent her from being into me to being desperately into me. She was a good looking girl absolutely not used to this kind of behavior. I was like George farking Clooney.

    She was not the first girl I ever 'let go' that's for sure but she was the most gorgeous. I didnt do it all for her of course, I was bailing out for myself too. Age was my reason but anyone could probably use the same line of action if you have conviction. Take a risk and play a girl like you can't take her - it's forbidden, tortured, your not interested, you met someone else... Could be a good experiment

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    impling87 is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: Coming out of the friend zone

    Quote Originally Posted by Jumpship View Post
    this girl may love the chase, sure sounds like it to me. i'd say to have her over and do a movie night, sounds like you guys have some strong sexual tension going already... so keep it going strong, but let her make the moves.

    ive definitely messed up with certian types of women (seductresses (TJR's in pandora's box)) by making an agressive move..and this is after what i had considered to have had a huge amount of sexual tension built with already..some women just wana seduce the fark out of you until they are ready to bang.. shouldnt be too long for that tho after a few movie nights
    Thanks a bunch. It feels like she enjoys the chase, but it's like she doesn't understand the game completely. If I use tease she throws out things I'd expect from an amateur. I'm thinking about switching to Mystery's Negs and IOD to go in under her radar. I feel as if I tried the movie thing now, she'd not feel attracted enough to establish stronger KINO. What would you suggest to get her moving?

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    impling87 is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: Coming out of the friend zone

    Quote Originally Posted by whitedragon View Post
    If what you have written is true then it sounds like SHE is in the friendzone.

    Many women are often described as 'unobtainable' but rarely men. But many men actually are unobtainable. There's no reason why anyone cannot become unobtainable simply by putting out lots of feelers but then never responding or even rejecting.

    Take a risk and play a girl like you can't take her - it's forbidden, tortured, your not interested, you met someone else... Could be a good experiment
    Thanks! If it seems like SHE is in the friendzone then my tactic worked. I was initially in it, but before she could start treating me like I was in the friendzone, I did it to her. I felt that jealousy is a strong way to get her to realize she has feelings for me, so I started "letting it slip" that I was talking to new girls. Basically, using it as a DHV. I should probably mention she also has just gotten out of her second bad relationship, so this is why I am playing it a bit different.

    As for the whole thing on telling her I can't take her, that's what I've been doing! lol

    Hopefully if this all works I will have a GREAT thing to submit and help other guys in the friend zone.

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    Default Re: Coming out of the friend zone : Update

    She wasn't able to come over today, but we texted all night. During a real serious and personal discussion in which I asked her a question, she gave me a real immature, cavalier and capricious answer. I took the time to DHV by calmly explaining to her that I was disappointed in her. It went like this...
    "you should be sorry, I mean I did answer like a thousand really personal questions for your amusement, that weren't that fun to relive either. I didn't expect an answer, but I didn't expect a cavalier and capricious answer. It really makes me start to think I gave you too much credit. I'm not mad or hostile here, I'm just being candid if a bit brusque. Good Night."

    She replied with "I'm sorry ".

    I think that I will fail to message her back tonight and tomorrow. She's a really nice girl, but plays too many games. I'm on my last thread here, and it's the only one that seems it may break her bad behavior. I'll at least know at the end of this if she's just a seducer playing hot/cold games, or not. Am I being to harsh? I feel I kind of owe it to everyone that's been crushed by the hot/cold game to find a way through.

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    Default Re: Coming out of the friend zone

    No problem man, one thing i figured with women who love the chase, is that at times they can be insencitive (these are women who usually have men at theyre every beck and call) if you were going to apply other techniques, i would seriously suggest getting Vin DiCarlo's Pandora's Box.
    This has seriously opened my eyes to women in a whole other light

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    Default Re: Coming out of the friend zone

    Status update:
    broke into sex talk today over facebook messenger while she was at work. She's still playing her games, so I'm hitting her with IOD then indicators of friendship coupled with IOIs. I playfully accused her of thinking of me sexually, stating in a different ways that I'm not that kind of guy. I also accused her of bragging about her sexual prowess in order to get me into bed; tried some of Ross Jeffries' command words just for the hell of it, then told her "If she keeps talking like this, the next time I see her I won't be able to control myself around her." Hopefully I can get her over for a movie on sunday to see how it all worked.


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