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    Default What if a girl knows your quoting The Game

    Last night I was out and I used the who lies more men or women on a set of 2 girls. It was going well until one of them said "where did you learn that line from?" and I denied it being a line and looked at her with a confused look. She then proceeds to ask me if I'm going to do the best friend test on them and ask if they use the same shampoo. She told me that she read the book and guys use those lines on her all the time. I still denied reading the book and I told her to teach me more ways to pick up girls since she read the book and I denied knowing about it. Have you guys ever been shouted out using lines?

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    Default Re: What if a girl knows your quoting The Game

    This is why I don't think "The Game" is the right place to start any more. Sure, it's a good book and has helped the community a lot - but it has become too mainstream and modern PUA tactics are a lot more honest and less manipulative than they used to be. Aspiring PUAs often make the mistake of applying stuff straight out of the book and it's just not where the community is at any more. We're doing better now.

    If you're going indirect, learn how to use your environment or anything about the woman to think up openers on the spot. Avoid openers and routines straight out of that book.

    More importantly: be HONEST to the women you interact with. Alpha males don't have to lie to women. You lied to this girl two times within seconds and it got you into trouble. If you want to learn more about honesty with women, learn from David X.

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    Default Re: What if a girl knows your quoting The Game

    Agree with Virgil. I still however think The Game is still a decent place to start. But not for tactics. Just a nice warm up and would not suggest using anything in the book though until you learn the principles and come up with your own material. In fact I'm sure in the book Neil Strauss said at one point that all of LA was sarged and he didn't know what to do at the time. It's a good story, no more no less.

    Now if someone happens to call you out on something then your best bet is to make it a consiracy theory or something similar. Neil Strauss himself had a very interesting response to this. He said that if someone calls you out on your opener then what you say is, "Are you serious? You read it to? Wow the first night out and try this stuff it doesn't even work. I guess it's just a bunch of bologne. When did you read the book? What did you think of it? etc." And now you are in conversation and can work your material.

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    Default Re: What if a girl knows your quoting The Game

    I think that's why it's important to stay in The Community, because if you aren't involved and think that these things are timeless--they aren't. We have to be constantly reinventing the game because women catch up. Girls have told me that the opinion openers need to stop. They'd rather you just had the balls to go direct with them.

    Create your own material, then share it with us we'll do the same for you.
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    I have to really agree with Virgil about being honest:
    "More importantly: be HONEST to the women you interact with. Alpha males don't have to lie to women. You lied to this girl two times within seconds and it got you into trouble. If you want to learn more about honesty with women, learn from David X."

    As BatMan pointed out, this is a great opportunity to start-up a conversation about the book. I first saw a copy of The Game while I was working overseas. The girls were super hot, and they knew it. I joined them for lunch and asked them all about The Game and their thoughts on the book. They enjoyed the attentions and were happy to talk with me, although we were all aware at the time that I was an AFC.

    It threw me for a loop the first time that a gal called me out on using some canned material. I did a FTC (false time constraint) followed by moving into an opinion opener. "Oh, he only has a minute." "Oh, he wants our opinion." Now that you know this might happen, you can make a joke out of it. I like Eric Disco's approach of talking about how he used to feel really nervous talking to beautiful women, but he's got enough confident to not look like an AFC while telling that story. Check out the Approach Anxiety blog for more from him.

    Cody, do you think that pick-up lines were just the 1980s equivalent of PUA? There are so many books full of lines that it almost looks like a younger and less developed technique leading in the same direction as PUA. I'm glad that the pick-up community has moved beyond The Game, but I still recommend it as a primer on who the founders of the community were and what it takes to really get good at this (practice, persistence, etc.)

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    Default Re: What if a girl knows your quoting The Game

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    Cody, do you think that pick-up lines were just the 1980s equivalent of PUA? There are so many books full of lines that it almost looks like a younger and less developed technique leading in the same direction as PUA. I'm glad that the pick-up community has moved beyond The Game, but I still recommend it as a primer on who the founders of the community were and what it takes to really get good at this (practice, persistence, etc.)
    You're not asking me, but Ross Jeffries has been an active PUA since the seventies and I have a movie on my computer from 1987 called 'The Pick-Up Artist'. So I think PUA had started to develop beyond pick-up lines even in those times.

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    Default Re: What if a girl knows your quoting The Game

    I just like throwing my two cents in wherever I can but it has pretty much all been said thus far. Move beyond the book. Its a good starting point but not meant as a bible anymore to go out and use as your pocket guide. That was made clear with the PUA show, as well as multiple TV appearances by Mystery and Style not too long after the book was written.

    Use the ideas in there to develop your own material.

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    Default Re: What if a girl knows your quoting The Game

    movie on my computer from 1987 called 'The Pick-Up Artist'
    @Virgil - How did you get a copy of that movie? I remember reading The Game and wanting to track down some of those original sources. There was a book of a similar title that was written in the 1980s. Sad that YouTube deleted the video clips that you posted from The Pick-Up Artist.

    @sinister - It reminds me of amateur stand-up comedian who try to tell other people's jokes. If you're just trying it out with your friends, you can quote Robin Williams and make them laugh. If you're opening a five-set of hot girls, you might want to try something new.

    What is the best overview book for 2012? I agree that are moving beyond the days of just listening to Style and Mystery. I've definitely found a lot of authors publishing new material. Has anyone risen to the top?

    Most of the books that I've found are focused on one specific topic rather than the well-written narrative overview that Style provided. Honestly I'd be happy to read anything with some quality writing and first person narrative from the PUA community. Self-publishing has created some pretty rough products: typos, rambling, etc.

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    Default Re: What if a girl knows your quoting The Game

    I have begun to disquise my game. None of my material is in any book anywhere. (Opps, that's a lie the girlfriend test which is completely modified and the 5 lies game)

    You can keep the principles of pick up and develop great material. I never say, I need an opinion or I have a question, that triggers the Game references. Those old techniques are played out.

    Tonight for example my opener went exactly like this,
    Smile, laugh, turn, "How mad can you really be if you catch your man cheating, if you were already cheating?"

    My openers custom, transtions, seduction routines, all of it. When this movie comes out, I'll still be rolling. You might as well get a head start.

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    Default Re: What if a girl knows your quoting The Game

    I have actually being called on the game. The other day at one of my many cruise party, a Russian HB10 came to me while I was working a pair of girls. And told them that I was a PUA and that I used the book the "Game". She as obviously jealous since I had met her way back, and I didn't call her. Instead of apologizing like a AFC, I just said. Well, I didn't call you because you are not my type. The other girls were surprise that I said that. But at the end they were still willing to talk to me! You don't have to apologies for being a man...instead tease the girl!


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