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    Default A big problem with a girl.

    Hi

    Recently I made a thread about me playing a game on a girl. That same girl is making me go insane. Here is why:

    She texted me first thing in the morning so we talked for some time (she is interested in the similar things as me) and then we hanged out. It was all going nice but the only problem is that she didn't fall for anything. When I was just chatting with her it was ok but as soon as I did something like a routine she would neg me and it just didn't work on her. She also stopped replying to my texts which is my big weakness. We are going to meet up today as well but we didn't think of the time and the place so one of us has to text the other person asking for it and I don't know if it should be me because I started acting like an AFC as it is :/

    So then we parted with a good-bye kiss(ing) and I joined my mates in a pub. There were a lot of girls from about HBs9-10 there and I peacocked myself a little so I was getting just enough attention. There was a problem. I didn't approach any of them because I couldn't stop thinking about that girl and why she followed the game so good the night we've met and then was totally immune to it. It was driving me nuts. It still is.

    I don't quite know what to do. I can't just stop speaking to her so I can play other girls because it wouldn't be right in my head.

    I'm lost and I need some guidance

    --Coze

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    Default Re: A big problem with a girl.

    Its rare to meet a woman that can keep up with a PUA. The simplest answer I could give you is learn to master "frame control." This alone should give you the tools and skill to handle women that have game themselves.

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    Default Re: A big problem with a girl.

    Thanks for the advise. Do you know any books or articles/videos on the Internet I can use to learn that?

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    Default Re: A big problem with a girl.

    Just be yourself and try not to work it too hard with tricks or routines. Natural confidence and charm. I've failed lots of times using routines and succeeded lots of times being AFC. Horses for courses. Also make sure you know what other guys she may have in the pipeline. Women usually have a few guys after them they string a long. Men should do the same more often. I never concern myself too much over any girl until I've slept with them or dating them - and then it's how I get rid of them in the most efficient way haha! If you have opportunities to meet other HB's do so because you cannot always work out which way the electrons are going to spin with women. Also taking a lead in organizing a date is not AFC - it is being the leading man and is generally expected.

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    Default Re: A big problem with a girl.

    I'm pretty sure she doesn't have anyone at the moment and I'll act AFC today when I meet her and see how it goes. If I act AFC on purpose then that's still PUA I guess ha ha ha. I'm not going to limit myself to one girl now that I know I can do better then that. Thanks guys

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    Default Re: A big problem with a girl.

    You should be easily able to search for it yourself. But in a nutshell it's basically changing the dynamics between you and the woman to get her to see YOU as the prize. No matter WHAT she says. What were some of the things you said to her that she countered?

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    Default Re: A big problem with a girl.

    I know the theory of it but don't quite know how to do it. I'll look it up.
    One of the things was when I tried to initiate a kiss the first time that day she pulled away a little basically a subtle way of saying not now. I tried to punish her by sitting there without saying anything and then went on my phone (about 1min), she was looking at me the whole time and then when I looked at her she said "You ok now?" in a very sarcastic way. I didn't know what to say.
    The other thing was when I tried to give her a little neg about her shoes (I think something about the shoelaces or something really stupid like that) she just called me a prick.

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    Default Re: A big problem with a girl.

    Lol that's good stuff. You will learn with experience when is a good time to go in for a kiss. Look up the Di Carlo Escalation Ladder for assistance. (Not sure the exact name). As for the prick comment I can give you two things. One is that whenever you use a neg, you have to follow up immediately with something unrelated. Otherwise it seems you are waiting for a reaction and you sure enough got it lol. This doesn't give her time to react and if she still does, then she just looks like a weirdo for still hanging onto it when you moved on to something else.

    If for some reason you forget to follow up after your neg, then it's time to play some frame games. The best frame you want to make is to interpret everything she does (even the prick comment) as that she is hitting on you. Some examples if she calls you a prick:

    - If that's how you get men into bed then I dont know how you get laid.

    - Are you always like this?

    - I like your spice. But it'll take more to get my attention.

    - Or just simply smile, shrug your shoulders, then talk about something else. In case you can't think of anything on the spot.

    Without blatantly verbalizing this, always assume attraction and always misinterpret what she does or says to the frame that she is hitting on you. But this is just my opinion so feel free to be skeptical.

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    Default Re: A big problem with a girl.

    UPDATE:

    So I met up with that girl today. We went to the park. Straight away she said that the reason she was acting weird the other day was because she looked up The Cube I run on her (and got it perfect) on the internet and found herself on one of the PUA forums, but then she followed with a statement that I'm too nice to be "one of those jerks" ha ha ha.

    I couldn't run any routines on her in case she actually went through the forum but still made out and stuff so it's all good.

    That's not the end of the story. As I was walking back home two girls called me over and started to compliment my style (I was a little bit peacocked as always). I didn't have to do much since the frame was set so I just did a few NEGs on them and number closed. As I was walking off they were whistling and waving at me

    Girls do sense confidence in guys from miles away

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    Default Re: A big problem with a girl.

    Confidence is the best weapon to have and natural creativity in your game beats canned routines. Glad it worked out and you got some bonus points with the closes later in the night. Ultimately women have to acknowledge anything that can help guys approach and want to be with a girl is not a bad thing.


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