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    Default Is it just me or do girls play the game as good as men?

    Hey guys.

    My target age range for women I try to pick up are 18-24. I am 30 but really only desire this age range.

    What Ive noticed with these younger girls is that their is A LOT more cunning and knowledge of the game then older girls. I have girls playing push-pull with me, re-scheduling dates (and lying about the reason-she bumped me for another guy) and overall sometimes being dishonest and trying to play me!

    I am still learning the game and working especially on my inner game, but am I imagining things or do lots of these girls know how to play the game as good as pua's?

    Also, i know as Alpha's we need to have control. I have ran into two girls in the last month, I did end up farking both of them but my game was sloppy, and they would not relinquish control. For example, they would say something rude or disrespectful to me thru texts or fb like "you suck" or would only hang out when they needed something. I'm also a smart guy so I wouldn't supplicate or be needy, I would stand my ground as well. However every time I do, it just ends up being an arguement and it just seems like girls in this age range want all control, with who they fark and when.

    I end up sometimes getting angry when I feel a girl is attacking my alphaness and I just end up saying some rude things and then cut her off and we don't talk again. Is this how an Alpha should handle girls that are bitches?

    Anyone have any advice here?
    "I came, I saw, I conquered"- Julius Ceasar

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    Default Re: Is it just me or do girls play the game as good as men?

    Women are usually always engineering the situation and a pussy (esp a young confident one) beats any alpha control macho game. Look at most married couples 'she's the boss' 'yes dear'. Unless you're living in a society that forcefully supresses women, the women control certain aspects of relationships completely. Learning from women is one of the best ways to pick them up and keep them satisfied. Being alpha doesn't necessarily mean 'winning' every argument, it sometimes means avoiding it or reducing it's time span. It's not football. Being an alpha also doesn't mean controlling every women, it means maximizing your opportunities to have the best or most women - and to have them happily in love with you. Alphas are men who are in control of themselves mostly and pit themselves ahead of other men so don't get too angry at a young girl because she doesn't submit to your games. You dont need to 'beat' women you need to be ahead of the other men - with women you are looking to 'match' and 'compliment'. Unlike the animal kingdom we have cultural selection as well as natural selection. Our brain is our biggest asset so use it to observe and satisfy women. Young women know what they have full well and may not be looking to settle down so you have to be adaptable to their course to succeed. Getting them into bed might be easy but continuing a relationship might be hard because they are not choosing you to be a mate just yet. That doesn't mean giving in - obviously standing your ground is exactly what they want and you can't help but do it - often they want you to get angry because it's a male aggressive emotional response they can relate to better than logic. But being calm, intelligent, creative, adaptable and confident is also being a strong man. Real men eat quiche . Adaptable genes are successful genes. It's how you handle it that counts. Most couples argue to a degree and it can be healthy. You can't control every situation but you can maximize the results of many situations so consider what young girls want short and long term and where you fit into that. That will give you a mindset not to be sloppy or not get so annoyed with them. I like feisty girls anyway - it would be no fun if it was always effortless and in our control right?

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    Default Re: Is it just me or do girls play the game as good as men?

    I think whitedragon has hit the nail on the head really. Yes, they play the game as well as, and sometimes, better than PUAs. This is why we respond this way. Normally it's them playing the games and we are the ones desperate for their attention and affection. This is probably why our techniques actually work on women, because it's a role reversal and they don't expect it.

    Women play the game more harshly than men, I think. Men play it to obtain intimacy with that woman, whereas women seem to play to get something they want or to make sure you're still interested, or just for fun (not that there's anything wrong with that lol). As some PUAs have said, we don't make the rules, we just found a way to play to their rules.

    I've heard women say that what PUAs do is exploitation and manipulative. Is it? I told a female friend about a girl I ran game on in which she sh1t tested and hinted ate getting her a drink. I did, but I made her work for it. The female friend said "that's just mean" I said "is it? If I had gone to the bar wallet out desperate to get her a drink, what would she do? Scam me out of a couple more drinks and leave, never to be heard from again. Who's really the cruel one?" . You can't trick a person into being attracted to you, it's impossible, you're just being what she's hard-wired to be attracted to. Women are the manipulative ones (not all but some). Some will string you along because you buy her things, others will use you to make an ex jealous.

    I'm working at the same age range and thank you, I didn't think about this before, so you've given me a reason to enhance and adapt my game. Women of that age do play harder. A woman in her 30s is probably past the stage of going out, finding a guy, having her fun and being done with it, for some of that age range, that's what it's all about, so you really have to stand out.

    Good luck. It'd help of you shared anything you find that works . I'll obviously do the same lol.

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    Default Re: Is it just me or do girls play the game as good as men?

    Totally agree Gemini - we should never make excuses for being a PUA because every women I've ever dated has been manipulative aswell on some level whether it's a push up bra or heavy duty shit and jealousy test. They have a vagina/womb and can cry during an argument...jokers of the deck of cards...but men can read maps and operate a DVD player so we still have all the chances in the world

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    Default Re: Is it just me or do girls play the game as good as men?

    Well said whitedragon lol. Its true though, we shouldn't apologise. Women will manipulate men to get a free drink or a ride in a nice car or whatever. Like i said, PUA is not manipulation, it's playing by the rules women set. We don't wish to gain something at their expense. We aim for intimacy with the girl, which, if all goes well, she wants too, so everyone's a winner. We save them from the typical "you're hot, can I have your number" guys.

    Also, you said, it seems women control whether you have sex with them. That's true and we'll never change it. We just have to make her realise she wants to. That's not manipulation, it's showing her what she truly wants deep down, past all the beliefs society have forced upon her.

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