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    Default Re: Is it possible that the game could be changing?

    Quote Originally Posted by DREAM View Post
    To answer this question, i'd say yes, the game is changing and will keep on changing...But at its core, it remains what it has always been
    This is on point. The core of the game stays the same but coming up w/ new ways to implement the game is ongoing!

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    Cool Re: Is it possible that the game could be changing?

    Quote Originally Posted by roland777 View Post
    Great post! Looking forward to hearing other reactions....

    I don't agree though. Your argument falls under the assumption that betas stay single their entire life. I dated a model as a beta 11 years ago. Doesn't mean my game was very good. I also got cheated on from a different girl because of my AFC behavior. Hell, I've dated some hot girls but I have some absolute horror stories lol.

    We are talking about something that is embedded in our genes. Survival of the fittest! Of course women end up getting w/ betas. That's how it's always been.

    I've thought about the topic too recently. Every time I get on facebook and see AFC's whining about girls I realize things are still the same!!!! Women still tell us what they want but they act on their emotions. Saw a stupid 'picture' posted earlier that explained how to treat a woman posted by a woman....total AFC crap.

    'Nice guys finish last' <---that isn't going ANYWHERE!

    Nobody is completely alpha or beta either. We have traits of both. 10 alphas in a room and i'll show u you 9 betas.
    Are you sure that you wouldn't get cheated on as an alpha? Why do you automatically make that assumption? How many relationships have you heard of where the man or the woman didn't cheat? Very few, I'm sure. Grandma and Grandpa aren't going to tell you that they didn't have thier problems regardless of the fact that grandpa was an alpha stud.

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    Default Re: Is it possible that the game could be changing?

    Quote Originally Posted by liukang75 View Post
    Are you sure that you wouldn't get cheated on as an alpha?
    Yes. Alphas get cheated on. That wasn't my point.

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    Default Re: Is it possible that the game could be changing?

    Quote Originally Posted by liukang75 View Post
    Are you sure that you wouldn't get cheated on as an alpha? Why do you automatically make that assumption? How many relationships have you heard of where the man or the woman didn't cheat? Very few, I'm sure. Grandma and Grandpa aren't going to tell you that they didn't have thier problems regardless of the fact that grandpa was an alpha stud.
    Not sure what assumption you're talking about. Yes, Alphas do get cheated on.

    I acted like an AFC in that relationship and got cheated on. Yes, it's deeper than that though. I played the 'game' properly after that and completely reversed and ended up owning that relationship. I went from NOT being in control to being in control. I went from puppy to lion.

    Girls land betas all the time. If they didn't half the human race wouldn't populate.

    We aren't talking about couples that have been married for 50 years. I thought we were talking about the 'game' or the 'chase'.

    Alpha behavior wins more than beta behavior. Alpha behavior wins in nature. Alpha behavior wins in business and personal life too. There are betas that win too - just not as much. I think what you're saying is like the Mark Zuckerburg type. He probably could REALLY have any woman he wanted. Or how about that lawyer that was a dork until he started making bank and got the title 'lawyer'. Then he landed the girl. In a sense, those guys attained some sort of alpha characteristics due to status and money....

    I'm aware there are exceptions but i'm talking about the general rule.

    There are people that don't cheat. See 'iNvestor' in Pandora's Box.

    "Men are becoming half beta, half alpha." - Yeah, most of us on this forum have evolved to become more alpha. Nobody is really either or though. We all have tendencies w/ both and this is nothing new. We just learned to 'tip' the scales.

    The core of the 'game' remains the same. Implementation of the game is what I agree on could change and maybe that's what you're talking about.

    "Guys, women are becoming empowered…" Women already have the power. Some women have all the power in their relationships. This is nothing new. Check the history books. Some women were owning it before it was 'cool'. Women have progressed in society in the last 100 years A LOT but the information on this forum is still TRUE....the information age has just made it easier to 'game' in my opinion.....TEXTING, FACEBOOK, DATING SITES, SELF HELP, ETC....we are the ones that have become empowered.....we are refusing to 'settle' and maximizing our results....

    i'm just saying the rules of attraction stay the same.....the game/chase stays the same.....

    this entire post probably made no sense! I'm tired as fark....

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    Default Re: Is it possible that the game could be changing?

    It's funny I saw a pretty hot girl maybe HB8 at the mall the other day with some real beta looking kid. They were both prolly like 14-15. The girl was completely dominating him, telling him what they would do, leading him, initiating public kisses, etc. and she couldn't have seemed happier. And I was thinking wow that's weird to see a girl completely dominating a beta and seem really happy. Normally when I see beta males they are hanging all over their women, putting them on a pedestal etc. He wasn't putting her on a pedestal but he was just getting led around and I was like wow, weird.

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    Default Re: Is it possible that the game could be changing?

    Quote Originally Posted by roland777 View Post
    This is on point. The core of the game stays the same but coming up w/ new ways to implement the game is ongoing!
    Absolutely! This is the way to go!

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    Default Re: Is it possible that the game could be changing?

    Quote Originally Posted by chillout24 View Post
    It's funny I saw a pretty hot girl maybe HB8 at the mall the other day with some real beta looking kid. They were both prolly like 14-15. The girl was completely dominating him, telling him what they would do, leading him, initiating public kisses, etc. and she couldn't have seemed happier. And I was thinking wow that's weird to see a girl completely dominating a beta and seem really happy. Normally when I see beta males they are hanging all over their women, putting them on a pedestal etc. He wasn't putting her on a pedestal but he was just getting led around and I was like wow, weird.
    I saw a similar trailer in my town yesterday...A boy with his gurl...Just by the way they were behaving, I couldn't figure out who woz the male in that relation-ship...They looked like two gurls enjoying eahc other company...And here comes the fashion notion again...The boy woz dressed like a chick and therefor behaving like one.

    No wonder for the first time in recorded history of show-bizz, The Greatest Solo Artist happpens to B a Fe-Male...Can anyone name me any male celebrity who is bigger than Lady Gaga???

    We're being dominaited by the Fe-males...They are literally the ones wearing the pants...That's 1 of the reasons I stopped wotching TV...and avoid reading most of the newspapers...i only watch some well-chosen movies on my dvd player...

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    Default Re: Is it possible that the game could be changing?

    the game is much like the modern day battlefield... Assymetric... meaning... in modern war the battle is fought on multiple planes... 360 degrees above and below ground... it is no longer linear and one of these planes is constantly changing... so as is the game... it has always been an assymetric battlefield... but these planes are constantly changing with what is becoming the new emotional desire of women... so though your possibly witnessing this minor change the basic will still remain the same...

    and as it has already been said there is a little beta and alpha in all of us... you have to effectively balance both of them to remain successful... if your constantly alpha when there is no one but you and the girl your can often become demeaning or condescending... then if your constantly beta you will be perceived as week... for mltrs you have to have to be able to balance both... women enjoy a powerful man but also a man who is once in a while sensative to her feelings...

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    Default Re: Is it possible that the game could be changing?

    and as for the celebrity question... definitely justin beiber...

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    Default Re: Is it possible that the game could be changing?

    Interesting topic. I have been doing my own research and studying my friends/coworkers/family members and have came to a conclusion. I have found that usually the type of men that have beta characteristics and are married or with a partner have terrible relationships. The gf wives or whatever just run right through them and they're never happy. And a lot of them claim to have been cheated on. I think the alpha beta nature remains the same. The only thing evolved is the way we communicate. But u never know. .


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