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    liukang75 is offline PUA Forums Respected Contributor
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    Default Re: Is it possible that the game could be changing?

    Quote Originally Posted by roland777 View Post
    Not sure what assumption you're talking about. Yes, Alphas do get cheated on.

    I acted like an AFC in that relationship and got cheated on. Yes, it's deeper than that though. I played the 'game' properly after that and completely reversed and ended up owning that relationship. I went from NOT being in control to being in control. I went from puppy to lion.

    Girls land betas all the time. If they didn't half the human race wouldn't populate.

    We aren't talking about couples that have been married for 50 years. I thought we were talking about the 'game' or the 'chase'.

    Alpha behavior wins more than beta behavior. Alpha behavior wins in nature. Alpha behavior wins in business and personal life too. There are betas that win too - just not as much. I think what you're saying is like the Mark Zuckerburg type. He probably could REALLY have any woman he wanted. Or how about that lawyer that was a dork until he started making bank and got the title 'lawyer'. Then he landed the girl. In a sense, those guys attained some sort of alpha characteristics due to status and money....

    I'm aware there are exceptions but i'm talking about the general rule.

    There are people that don't cheat. See 'iNvestor' in Pandora's Box.

    "Men are becoming half beta, half alpha." - Yeah, most of us on this forum have evolved to become more alpha. Nobody is really either or though. We all have tendencies w/ both and this is nothing new. We just learned to 'tip' the scales.

    The core of the 'game' remains the same. Implementation of the game is what I agree on could change and maybe that's what you're talking about.

    "Guys, women are becoming empowered…" Women already have the power. Some women have all the power in their relationships. This is nothing new. Check the history books. Some women were owning it before it was 'cool'. Women have progressed in society in the last 100 years A LOT but the information on this forum is still TRUE....the information age has just made it easier to 'game' in my opinion.....TEXTING, FACEBOOK, DATING SITES, SELF HELP, ETC....we are the ones that have become empowered.....we are refusing to 'settle' and maximizing our results....

    i'm just saying the rules of attraction stay the same.....the game/chase stays the same.....

    this entire post probably made no sense! I'm tired as fark....
    No, your post definitely makes sense. Sorry, I'm a little bitter because I'm in the process myself of going from puppy to lion in my current relationship. I've noticed that a complete alpha stance isn't getting all of the results that I'm looking for. I'm finding that there is a very fine line that you have to walk in order to keep a woman stimulated. I'd love to hear your story and how you managed to flip things around. As for the "game" or the "chase", I think that your right but I am noticing a slight change, and judging by other responses on here, I'm not the only one who sees it. When I learned of the "game", I began to feel like I had suddenly entered the matrix! I began to read body language all around me. I had a very public job where I had to approach women all the time. I started to notice how my voice and body language would get women playing with thier hair or scratching themselves--young and old. I'm a very curious person and any time something doesn't completely make sense--I question it.

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    Default Re: Is it possible that the game could be changing?

    I dont believe so but style aka neil strauss said it could be changing very slowly and that he is on his way to making new material but i dont think so its hard wired emotions that we are using "Attraction is not a choice"

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    Default Re: Is it possible that the game could be changing?

    Quote Originally Posted by chillout24 View Post
    It's funny I saw a pretty hot girl maybe HB8 at the mall the other day with some real beta looking kid.
    This is nothing new guys. My mom and stepdad are in their 50/60's and she runs everything. She is the alpha in the relationship. I feel sorry for the guy actually lol. In college I had a female friend tell me I liked dominating females*. Maybe it was being around it while being raised.

    *The girl I dated in college that dominated my ass came back after college. I went alpha on her too and she would do anything. She even said, 'i don't remember the sex being this good" It's all mental. We could have had a relationship either way. It's just a lot more pleasurable with the AFC stuff removed. Please, let me clarify that I'm not talking about beating a club over a woman's head. I'm just saying acting like an alpha triggers attraction.

    Females dominating males is more common than you think. I just don't want to be that AFC guy. The reason I started here was to actually have choices. I have a cousin who is 30. Never had a girlfriend in his life. Finally, has one now and asked her to marry him. That was his only choice. He will be happy i'm sure but the last 10 years of his life wasn't the most pleasurable in the dating department.

    Attraction stays the same but social dynamics are always changing. Social media is definitely something to look at. The way we communicate is something to look at. There are even studies that are coming out that's saying are brains are being rewired w/ social media/technology. I think it could possible be argued that if social skills go down PUA methods could be more effective in the future.

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    Default Re: Is it possible that the game could be changing?

    I think it could possible be argued that if social skills go down PUA methods could be more effective in the future.

    ^ I hope so. It's already like shooting fish in a bucket.

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    Default Re: Is it possible that the game could be changing?

    Quote Originally Posted by sinister View Post
    the game is much like the modern day battlefield... Assymetric... meaning... in modern war the battle is fought on multiple planes... 360 degrees above and below ground... it is no longer linear and one of these planes is constantly changing... so as is the game... it has always been an assymetric battlefield... but these planes are constantly changing with what is becoming the new emotional desire of women... so though your possibly witnessing this minor change the basic will still remain the same...

    and as it has already been said there is a little beta and alpha in all of us... you have to effectively balance both of them to remain successful... if your constantly alpha when there is no one but you and the girl your can often become demeaning or condescending... then if your constantly beta you will be perceived as week... for mltrs you have to have to be able to balance both... women enjoy a powerful man but also a man who is once in a while sensative to her feelings...
    This was the best response that I have heard so far. Game on sir.

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    Default Re: Is it possible that the game could be changing?

    My opinion is that he game never changes, even if the target changes and the social environment.

    Because, what causes and builds attraction is a level of apathy. Before you would get weeded out as beta if you dropped everything in order to wipe her tears or make her smile. Now days if you let her play alpha your still beta and get weeded out. Its the same game and shit test just a different color.

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    Default Re: Is it possible that the game could be changing?

    Being beta doesn't mean you won't get girls. There's too many women for that to be true. The reason we want to be alpha is because alpha behavior trumps beta behavior. Acting like a true alpha (loosely used term wouldn't you say?) is always more attractive than acting beta

    The game is always changing. It is a dynamic, fluid entity and that's part of the beauty of it. The core always remains the same though. EX: Today, social value and proof is a huge attention grabber. It gets her interested in you. You go back to Pride and Prejudice times and social value and proof is still a huge attention grabber. It gets her interested in you. Go back to hunter-gatherer societies social value and proof is still a huge attention grabber. It still gets her interested in you.

    The core fundamentals never change. The techniques we use may, but no matter what the same emotions, the same buttons, the same triggers are targeted.

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    Default Re: Is it possible that the game could be changing?

    You can either be alpha or have lots of social proof/money and you'll always be able to get girls. A beta with no money, no social proof, can still get girls but they will almost never be hot, because the hot girls will go for someone more desirable 99.9% of the time.


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