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    Default Teetering on the friend zone

    Hello,
    I've been lurking here for a while, but only now do I have a question that I can't seem to answer myself.

    So on with the back story. I live in the US, but just got back from a multi-year run in Europe. As a result, American women are a major turn off. Since I returned, I've been gaming just about everything that looks even remotely interesting, but I haven't found anything I want to close with. I've never lowered my standards below what I think of as an HB8 (ok well once but I was young).

    Anyway, we have lots of Eastern Europeans here, and I met a gorgeous HB9 from Ukraine. Had a great time with her, plenty of Kino, and sort of fell a little head over heels for her.

    Sent her flowers with a quirky note attached, spent a few really great nights cuddling on the beach etc. But not even a K-close. I got curious to what the issue was, and she told me that she has a BF in the Ukraine.

    I didn't let it get to me, just took her home like it didn't matter, and instead of getting out of the car she just sat there and talked to me for a half hour or so before inviting me to the beach, where we stayed another four hours, eventually falling asleep in a more than friends position.

    While we are there she is talking about how she will eventually leave him, but that she promised him she wouldn't do anything with anyone else and how she does like me etc.

    I don't have any AA, and have great rapport, but I feel like I am about to cross into the Friend Zone.

    What would a pro do?

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    Default Re: Teetering on the friend zone

    Seems like you are getting close to the friend some, but no worries. You can still steer it. I highly recommend using push/pull techniques to build sexual tension. Hide her from her inhibitons with this technique and I wouldn't be surprised if she jumped on you.

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    Default Re: Teetering on the friend zone

    Alright, so for the next few days I'll cut the romance, (been fawning over her a little too much) and try to get her to miss the attention.

    He roommate who she doesn't like is a talented artist, and she's coming over to do a portrait of my house tommorow. Seems like a decent neg/disqualifier

    I'll also let it be known that I am back on the prowl so to speak by telling her I am going out to a bar with some other friends. She can't go as she's only 19.

    I think I get the idea how to push at this point, but I'll still have to figure out how to pull her back.

    When she stops showing IOIs, is that when I start pulling again?

    Do I get the idea?

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    Default Re: Teetering on the friend zone

    she shouldn't stop showing IOI's....if you push it will drive her a little nutty and increase her IOI's if anything....

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    Default Re: Teetering on the friend zone

    I'd make her jealous by hitting on her room mate. Build more sexual tension, and then use a boyfriend destroyer technique which you can google. Then she will prob jump you, and you are in.

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    Default Re: Teetering on the friend zone

    So if I've seen her (sometimes going out of my way to do so) everyday since we met (a little over a week ago) should I maybe ice down my approach towards her? i.e. not seeing her for a few days. I don't want to come off as desparate...

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    Default Re: Teetering on the friend zone

    Everyday is way too often in my opinion, definitely limit it to 1 or 2 times a week. Make yourself appear much more busy, for sure start dating other girls. Let her know that you are dating other girls but keep building sexual tension with her. Make her feel like she is option #2 to you. Setup a meetup with her, then break it last minute and tell her you are going on a date with a girl. If she is interested in you, this will drive her nuts and put the ball in your court. By her telling you she has a boyfriend, she is essentially putting the ball in her court and making you do the work.

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    Default Re: Teetering on the friend zone

    Ok, so I've played this well. Really well, played with the roommate, blah blah blah. HB9 came outside, and I saw the eyes. You know what I mean.

    I completely misunderstood the meaning, and I walked away.

    Her friend tells me the next day that she wanted to kiss me, but she (the friend) walked in at the exact moment, and it didn't happen.

    The friend is sorry, didn't mean to ruin her (our) moment.

    Now, says the friend, HB9 is feeling really bad about wanting to kiss close me (because of the bf.)

    Gaming other women isn't working, I'm simply not into it. How do I make her realize that it is already over with her bf (she is showing serious doubts, with very direct language) and she might as well have fun while she is here in the US.

    The system works, but this girl is really shy, really gorgeous, and really young.

    tldr: How to make a girl who is moments away from forgetting she has a bf, forget about her bf?

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    Default Re: Teetering on the friend zone

    Boyfriend destroyer routines if your "sinister"...


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