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    mfdoom is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Question Help maintaining a strong frame

    I am working on my daygame and finding it hard to maintain the conversation, I usually open with an opinion opener and then transition by making an assumption about the girl.

    It goes well up till there, then I start feeling as if I am being chased by a lion, I get panicky and find it hard to maintain a smooth conversation.

    Basically I start out with a strong frame that gradually fades away, How can I improve this?

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    Default Re: Help maintaining a strong frame

    Conversational threading. Change your opener to something that can be sent in multiple directions. For instance women love shopping and fashion. An idea seeing as you are comfortable with opinion openers would be something like:

    PUA: Hey I am new to the area and about to go shop for a new wardrobe could you recommend a few stores to me?

    HB: (common response should be) Sure blah blah blah

    PUA: [Ask questions about the stores and what not and what she thinks would suit you best.]

    HB: [Gives responses]

    PUA: Well like I said I am not familiar with the area can you give me directions to this place. [or] Well thanks for the information. (Start to walk away) Hey if your not busy would you mind shopping with me and letting me know your opinion on the things I try on. Women know best.

    I have done this a number of times and it has been successful for me. Tune it to your needs.

    Sinister

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    Default Re: Help maintaining a strong frame

    Sinisters got great advice,, I agree completely

    I would also say - practice talking more with strangers you have no interest in picking up. You should be just as sociable with them, but it's easier because your only practicing conversational skills, not trying to pickup a girl

    Every time you get on an elevator, wait in line, or are standing next to someone use the same effort to just practice
    Never need praise, sympathy, or approval



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    Default Re: Help maintaining a strong frame

    And don't stay too long on a thread, start new ones randomly, women tend to bounce all over the place

    You: "Hey I am new to the area and about to go shop for a new wardrobe could you recommend a few stores to me?"

    Her: "sure, this one, and this one, and"

    You: "oh, it's close from a great thai food restaurant right?"

    Her: "yeah, but I've never been"

    You: "ah, I totally need to take you there, I love thai food, reminds me my old travels... wait, don't tell me.. you travelled, but only in europe"

    Her: "haha, no, I've been to [whatever]"

    You: "oh, and now you manage to surprise me"

    and so on, and so on, just bounce all over the place; you can go back to previous threads, but only in this "bouncing" manner

    Good way:
    "But wait, you've travelled to [whatever] and haven't even tried the best thai restaurant of your own city?"

    Bad way:
    "Haha... But well yeah, this restaurant I was talking about is really great"


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