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    Default Pandoras Box Expert needed. Need help determining type.

    Hey all,
    I have recently started studying the pandoras
    Box system, and I'm using my ex for testing, by this I mean taking what I know about her to determine
    Her type. Initially I came up with TDI, the playette.
    How ever as I'm learning more about the system I'm starting
    To think maybe she's not. Maybe I'm over analyzing, or maybe she has evovled or matured
    To a different type, because I am taking all information that I know of her from
    A 5 year period of time. I'll explain below.

    Time Line T or N
    Initially I swore tester, I always though she was flirty, but she was a friendly flirt, guys would say she was a tease, I got her by ignoring her, because she had male attention
    All the time. She's always been guarded, heavily. She was a
    Make out whore when i first met her, but she never slept with any of
    The guys. I was actually only her second. Ok so this
    Screams tester. Now this is where I get confused on this time line, her relationships last long, she and I were three years, her bf before me, 2 years, that's typically an investor trait, of
    Course after me, had like little 3 month, 8 month relationships, and we were still sleeping
    Together as well. Also investors have more
    Girl friends, when I first met my ex she said I domt get along with girls they're bitches, however all I have met or seen her with are girl friends, of course she could have been
    Sneaky with them, also.

    Sex line D or J
    Initially I thought denier she would lie about things to maintain her image, didn't like talking about sex, saw it as gross, heavily guarded about her past didn't like talking about it, so she had hidden secrets, she doesn't dress slutty, yet she's not really religious.
    Now on justifiers, the only real thing that I'm stumped here is she has a tattoo, just one
    Though and she use to hate my sexual
    Advances when we dated. She loved sex, just acted like
    She didn't. Also she's not very religious, which is another justifier trait.

    Relationship line I or R

    Ok this is where I'm really stumped. I initially thought idealist. She's not passionate about work, never cared to go to college. Has this fantastical idea that there's this one
    Guy out there for her that's perfect and they will never have a single fight or argument....yeah I know...she has the princess mentality she feels men and women have different roles, in example, she would make comments like "that's not my job" about things meaning
    It was more of a mans job, and she wasn't very independent until now, like
    She lived with her mom, up until just recently.

    Now real sign of realist at all. Except. This is what throws me
    Off. Idealist supposedly have capable father figures, she doesn't she has severe daddy issues, also she seems like she's becoming more independent now, which makes
    Me believe she's maturing into a realist.

    Anyway there are my arguments, like I said maybe I'm
    Over analyzing, but I'm getting confused
    And maybe just need a fresh pro look on this.

    Thanks in advance guys.

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    Default Re: Pandoras Box Expert needed. Need help determining type.

    Relationship line I or R

    Ok this is where I'm really stumped. I initially thought idealist. She's not passionate about work, never cared to go to college. Has this fantastical idea that there's this one
    Guy out there for her that's perfect and they will never have a single fight or argument....yeah I know...she has the princess mentality she feels men and women have different roles, in example, she would make comments like "that's not my job" about things meaning
    It was more of a mans job, and she wasn't very independent until now, like
    She lived with her mom, up until just recently.



    Bro if she knows her role thats hectic, should of kept her hahahhahahaahaha love a good cook and a clean house. mate you have done your research but then again she was your ex and you where together for 3 years so that intel was not hard to gather.

    what you have discovered is what differs PUA's to AFC's,

    You cant stereotype people, there all different, there past experiences, there present status and there future goals and ambitions are what create people, you can get a generall idea what she is like but when you start catogorising women thats where you start failing. I was the same, i used astrology to get a genral idea of what a person was like, but that only worked to get them to be interested in you. listening to them verbally, body signals and what she responds to is where you gather your targets intel to seduce. thats why friend zone is perfect if you use it to your advantage to get them comfortable and not stay in it.

    Thats my opinion buddy

    Im cheering for you, let me know, im unaware of the pandora technique since i use techniques for long term seduction.

    Regards,

    Tyrone
    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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    Default Re: Pandoras Box Expert needed. Need help determining type.

    Thanks for the words of encouragement, lol I am definitely a AFC, I will be the first to admit that, its not pride, but more of admittance.

    Pandora's Box has some very useful information, but i'm discovering it may be more for people on an intermediate-to advanced level.

    I'm using my ex more to validate its techniques, your right it wasn't hard intel to gather but thats exactly why im using her, The things I did to get her were almost identical of what they say to do with her certain type.

    The real reason i'm here is to up my game, My friend is a natural, and i've watched and copied him for years, the guys amazing and just has a natural way with women, as to where I choke, and a lot of it has to do with some pretty traumatic rejections in my early years, and my ex kinda jacked my confidence down as well. I can tell I'm holding my friend back, and I want to be a better wingman and pull my weight, and then some So I can return the favor. The guy has hooked me up with quite a few women, and I'm starting to see that i'm using him as a crutch.

    Anyway I've learned a lot from him, but i think i have to find my own way, style, rhythm, whatever you might call it.

    You have anything you might recommend for more of a beginner?

    Thanks man
    Rick



    what you have discovered is what differs PUA's to AFC's,

    You cant stereotype people, there all different, there past experiences, there present status and there future goals and ambitions are what create people, you can get a generall idea what she is like but when you start catogorising women thats where you start failing. I was the same, i used astrology to get a genral idea of what a person was like, but that only worked to get them to be interested in you. listening to them verbally, body signals and what she responds to is where you gather your targets intel to seduce. thats why friend zone is perfect if you use it to your advantage to get them comfortable and not stay in it.

    Thats my opinion buddy

    Im cheering for you, let me know, im unaware of the pandora technique since i use techniques for long term seduction.

    Regards,

    Tyrone[/QUOTE]

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    Default Re: Pandoras Box Expert needed. Need help determining type.

    the most important thing to do is have fun with it, i'm allready sensing your treating this kinda like a job, all sections of the game are just enhance what personality you allready have, find what works for you, gain confidence in it and you'll be sure to be a success. I wouldn't say your an AFC becuase your will to do something to improve, your alittle above that now. Your a aspiring PUA start telling yourself that and the confidence will follow.

    All the best brother,

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    Men, we need to value our time more then we value women. This isn't to say women are not valuable. But who are we to believe in something so illogical, as men we should realize that without our time(life), we would not even be able to pursue women, but only our mother who gave us life. Why do we think we should prioritize them over our time(life) unless she is the one who gives me/my children life. Man is Sovereignty.

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    Default Re: Pandoras Box Expert needed. Need help determining type.

    Thanks man, I appreciate that. Your right I'm treating this somewhat like a job, mainly because I'm serious about it, but at the same time I'm pretty passionate about it and excited to see where it takes me, but I will remember to relax and have fun with it. Very wise words.

    -Rick

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    Default Re: Pandoras Box Expert needed. Need help determining type.

    If your new, it won't make up for experience in the field. Learn to engage in conversation that learn about the lady, it will make it worth it and you can tell her type that way. This will just make you over-think things before you learn about it, just marketing hype of what you can learn. I'd spend time learning more cold reading techniques and why they work.

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    Default Re: Pandoras Box Expert needed. Need help determining type.

    It might be a bit late, but T/N is very easy to change. But from what you said, she's an investor. Doesn't matter if she hangs with a lot of guys. What matters is how she prefers to date. Ask her "Let's say you're single. Do you prefer testing many at once until you get the best one, or do you prefer dating one at a time?" If she says "both", ask her which one she mainly does. Thats for T/N

    For Denier/Justifier, ask her if she thinks sex is something special and a big deal, or is it something just for fun and not a big deal. Although religion and tattoos are a big clue, it's not 100% accurate. The answer to that question is the main personality type.

    For Realist/Idealist, ask her if she had to choose between the two, does she fantasize being taken care of, or taking care of others, especially in the future? Realists at their core are the nurturing type and likes to spoil and take care of you. Idealists love to be taken care OF.

    That's how you find her type. By asking her questions to get to the CORE of her personality.


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