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    Default Getting called out as a pua

    I was wondering how often people call you guys out for using a pick up line from the pua community. I was going to approach a mixed set the other day but didn't because I feared just that would happen. My theory is that it would be much more likely in a mixed set because, while most guys certainly are not trying to be puas, many have at least done some token research. Anyway I hear all girl sets are more difficult than mixed so maybe this risk a good trade off. still I would like to know what the risk is.. 1 in 5, 1 in 10, 1 in 105.... what are your guys's experiences with this??

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    Default Re: Getting called out as a pua

    i cant understand exactly your question, but here's my interpretation to what you just said..

    "what's the risk of a girl or a set calls you a PUA, because you used a Pickup Line?" - if that is the question, i think that the answer is not quite simple.

    it depends a lot on the body language, the alpha male traits you have etc.. what i mean is, if a shy/unconfident guy (opposite of alpha), walks up to a girl or a set and opens with a canned Pickup Line, they won't see him as a PUA/player, but if an alpha male walks up to a girl/set with the same pickup line, they MIGHT think he is actually a PUA.. but still not necessarily..

    what i mean is, the projection is more important than the actual line, in order for a girl to think that you are some kind of PUA or at least better than an AFC
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    Default Re: Getting called out as a pua

    I guess I should rephrase: what is the likelihood of a girl having heard your line before, and is it significantly less than that of a guy (in a mixed set). In your experience, when you get called out for using a line, is the person calling you out more often a guy or a girl. if you could put it in terms of "of the last 100 or so all female sets i opened, 4 girls had heard my opener before. of the last 100 mixed sets i opened 7 guys had heard my opener before." Id really appreciated it. Id just really like an approximation of the risk.
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    Default Re: Getting called out as a pua

    Quote Originally Posted by Atlas View Post
    I guess I should rephrase: what is the likelihood of a girl having heard your line before, and is it significantly less than that of a guy (in a mixed set). In your experience, when you get called out for using a line, is the person calling you out more often a guy or a girl. if you could put it in terms of "of the last 100 or so all female sets i opened, 4 girls had heard my opener before. of the last 100 mixed sets i opened 7 guys had heard my opener before." Id really appreciated it. Id just really like an approximation of the risk.
    Cheers!
    -How about u don't use canned openers?
    -Idk depends if u're in america yeah the risk is higher than other countries but still very slim
    -u can tease her about it OMG how many guys do u flirt with a night?
    -u can just say u caught i just read the game and wanted to try some of that stuff out to see if it works on her cuz she seems intresting
    -If u have big balls say i'm a PUA! Are u scared? with a ibg grin and relaxed body language
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    Default Re: Getting called out as a pua

    I understand the risk is slim but in your experience does it happen significantly more often in mixed sets?

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    Default Re: Getting called out as a pua

    In a year of sarging in a college town Ive never been spotted.

    Old Buddist sayimg: "Those who speak of it don't know of it, and those who know of it don't speak of it."

    Less tham 1% of people (in a set or alone) will be be familiar with sarging AND be thinking about it when you approach. More tham 99% will just be thinking "hey, this guy..." (whether that sentence ends with "...is pretty cool" or "...must be really drunk." is up to you)

    Of those who recognize it, few (less than 5%) will suspect you. 95% who recognize it will simply think "hey, this sitiation reminds me of that subculture with which I am vaguely familiar"

    Of those who suspect you, only about 30% will call you out before you lock in (and never after)

    The ones that call you out are not familiar enough with PUA to generate a strong case agaonst you, so just play dumb with AMOGs and sh1t tests (those are the two ways you might be called out) and act enthusiastic for them to explain to the group what this "POA is it?" thing is.

    The only ones who CAN make a strong case against you are other PUAs (who will help you) former and current pivots (who will help you if they like you - but only as long as its safe and fun for themselves) or girls who got screwed over by an amature PUA (play dumb and frame them as a crazy b1tch)

    So of those who will call you out, of those who will suspect of those, of those who will recognize is like 30% of 5% of 1%... so about 1 in 6000 people. These numbers are based on levels of suspicioun in-field.

    Ive not field tested these tactics, but I am a pro at deception (without condoning or condemning) and these are always my Lateral stacks if I ever do get called out.
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    Default Re: Getting called out as a pua

    I am called on my game some times, instead of making excuses I used her interest to my advantage..by bring her to my reality. I let her curiosity to get the bet of her..and then sh will not care if I am a PUA or not...she will want to be with me!

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    Default Re: Getting called out as a pua

    I have been called out for being a wingman before. I was actually complimented on my ability to keep her occupied and away from her friend while she talked to my friend.

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    Default Re: Getting called out as a pua

    Girls call on guys game because they are doing a good job..and they are curious,and want to test your frame and see if you will crumble under pressure. If you just take it as an opportunity to start a stimulating conversation then and not hitting on her at the beginning (by neging her)...she will love you for it!

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    Default Re: Getting called out as a pua

    She knows I'm a PUA. I don't hide it, so it's not a problem.
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