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    Unhappy Brothers, I am in need of much help

    Hi all, I have been involved in the PUA world for quite a bit now and I have a problem. I am making very little progress, if any. I have read, the game, rules of the game, and am currently reading the Pick up Artist; I have also received some live training. I have overcame my AA and can start a conversation from time to time. But I have pretty bad sticking points, I cannot keep the conversation going and the few times that I do, the girl is just plain not interested; I use all the material I have read i.e. DHV, etc. I just can't overcome these problems. What do you guys recommend for people like myself? All help is appreciated.
    When playing the game, always live on the edge. You always get rejected by every girl you don't approach.

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    Default Re: Brothers, I am in need of much help

    As far as keeping the conversation going, when I run out of anything real to say- Just make it up, or use stories from drunken nights with buddies, make fun of someone nearby(just be sure to keep it funny, and not verge into becoming a total douche). Keep it short though, at least in my experience- If she sees you spending too much time/energy on her, she'll think she's got you in the bag. Chat with a few other women nearby, show her that there's other women who want you, she'll get jealous and come for you.

    Now, given- This is just stuff I do normally. I can't promise it works, because I really don't know why it does for me, but- Try it. Worse comes to worst, you'll get a funny story out of it.

    -Mick

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    Default Re: Brothers, I am in need of much help

    It seems to me you are over thinking this and relying too much on pre-set things. Sure you can have pre set intro, a few stories and a gambit, but after that just have a normal conversation with the chick adding in negs and kino.

    If you are having problems keep the convo short, leave to meet your buddies / friends / bathroom w/e your excuse is after a few minutes. Leave on good terms so you can meet up with her later and when you are recomposed.

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    Default Re: Brothers, I am in need of much help

    Hey Bud,

    YOu want to practice these techniques until you can come up with your own natural style. It takes time for all this "Material" to get into your subconscious and be as natural as breathing. that being said I think you should work on your INNER GAME. Cause if you think about it; who gives a fuck if you say anything! Walk up to a girl at a bar next time, and just look at her!!! don't brake your stare and say "I bought a puppy today". If you hold your FRAME right you can say anything and attract her. Its like the saying that says " My actions speak louder than my words"... or " I as a person am above my own words".... Ive done this shit before and it works. Im also 25 but look 19..haha. Chicks love it.

    You also Have to know what you want. HAVE to!! .. so, basically you can't frame your opening like that and then be afraid to KIno or kiss her cause it will go against the Manly Alpha frame she first saw from you. You have to be congruent to how you first approached her. That is why many people open with stupid openers that make them sound a little funny but nerdy and does gets girls attention. BUt when they try and escalate they get rejected cause they come on too strong and aren't congruent with the nerdy/funny frame they approached with. So all Im saying is approach with a strong frame, and then you can be funny and nerdy and whatever!! try it. Maybe it works maybe it doesn't. who cares anyways!!

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    Default Re: Brothers, I am in need of much help

    I bought a puppy today... I really like that.


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