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    Default Help needed with girl in "Shakey relationship"

    Hey guys, was gaming a girl I met at a shop near mine (HB7 with redhair, got a soft spot for them), displayed all my alpha male traits and always looked happy. I initiated conversation when I noticed she was reading 50 shades of grey and talked about how its interesting in the way it gives an in depth view into the way women view relationships and sex. I left the conversation there and went off as there was a queue.

    The next day was a similar routine, she looked down so I asked her “Long day huh?”. She smiled and said “Yeah, it has been a long day but I get off at 3.” I took this as a hint that she wants to go out by the tone she said it in but unfortunately for me I had studying to do for an exam I had the next day. We small talked for a bit and I left.

    The next day after my exam I came back to the shop in a good mood, even though I was tired (no sleep on the night, I have a problem with insomnia before exams). The shop was empty and she was the only one working. The stage was set and I knew I was going to pull this off perfectly. She initiated conversation by asking “Hey, how are you?” I replied with “Yeah, I’m awesome, how about you?” We small talked for a bit and then I went in to ask her out.

    The conversation was a mellow mood and I went in with “Listen, there’s something about you that just seems interesting but I can’t put my finger on it. What’s your schedule like for next week?” She said she was working all next week. I said “Yeah, I’m pretty busy too but I’ll tell you what, when we both have time off how about we meet up for a drink at the pub?”. She giggled and said “Yeah, that sounds good”. I said “Great, how about you give me your number and I will give you a call when I’m free and we can just sit down for a bit, but don’t take it the wrong way *with a smirk on my face*” She gave me her number, I asked her what her name was, I said I will give her a text later on and I left feeling amazing.

    Later on I was with a couple of friends at Subway when I decided to send this text. It was about 4 hours since I had seen her. I wrote “Hey Hariot, I didn’t get to introduce myself and I felt a bit rude, my name is Sohan :P, as much as I would love to stay in contact with you over the weekend I’m going to Holland this weekend to see family but I look forward to seeing you next week, have a great weekend!”

    This where things went sour and she sent this: Sorry, I was being polite when I gave my number out of temptation as my current relationship is a bit shakey, I’m sorry if this upset you however I would to be friends  have a nice time in Holland!

    I left it an hour and replied with: Awww, you have a boyfriend, that’s cute :P but I think you got the wrong end of the stick! When I said to sit down for a drink I meant as mates, we should still go for one though, I will call you when I get back to England.

    She replied almost immediately with: Okay that’s cool, mind if I bring a mate, you can bring one too .

    Me about 10 minutes later: We shall see, I like meeting new people anyway, that’s why I wanted to get to know you , I think there is more to you than what meets the eye .

    Okay that’s where I am up until this point, she hasn’t replied yet but that’s understandable because I’m leaving the country. I’m just unsure what to do from this point, I like her, she has that hipster look to her with the glasses and intelligence is a turn on for me. She has agreed to go out with me provided she can bring a mate (I know, cockblocker), I was thinking of using the boyfriend destroyer on her while building rapport and using mild kino (maybe not a kiss close but I will give it a shot) but what’s the best way that you guys would suggest to approach this situation? I could bring a friend with me but I only have 2 male friends on campus with me at the moment as we work here over summer, ones in a LTR and one is a complete AFC. I don’t get one-itis as I know there’s a lot of options for me but if I could get with this girl I would be very happy.

    If I could get some answers as I am out of the country until sunday afternoon than I would be very pleased
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    Default Re: Help needed with girl in "Shakey relationship"

    I have to say I was rooting for you all the way. You played a solid game and even brought up "50 Shades of Grey." ( I got to start reading those by the way) I started asking myself "What's this guys issue then? He's got it in the bag." Lol really sucks man.

    Definitely use the the BFDestroyer. She said it herself that her relationship is a bit shakey. Perfect!! Happy women you can't use BFDestroyers on. You did friendzone yourself a bit. A better option is to say, when she mentioned her bf, "Oh that's great. He can bring us breakfast in bed. I prefer my eggs scrambled."

    Also you may want to think about making it a conspiracy theory by exploiting the "forbidden fruit" concept. This can intensify things if you approach everything with her like, "Omg we shouldn't be doing this. This is all wrong," while you continue to physically escalate.

    If she tries to bring her bf along, then I would flake. Not because of the bf, but because something came up at the last min. Doesn't matter if she believes you or not. She doesn't have a choice. Then try to set up plans to meet one on one.

    It's easy for these situations to go back and forth. One day she hates her bf and you two are talking about spending time together and other good stuff. The next day she loves him and ignores you, and you wouldn't even have any idea why she is ignoring you other than whatever you think it is. This can intensify your attraction for her, because of the challenge, if you aren't careful. So make sure you don't lose yourself in this pursuit. Hope this helps and good luck.
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    Default Re: Help needed with girl in "Shakey relationship"

    take a wingman and get him to deal with the cock block. then get some one on one time with her. build attraction and some light report with her and then just see her every couple days building more and more report until she no longer has a "shaky relationship"

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    Default Re: Help needed with girl in "Shakey relationship"

    Thanks a lot for the feedback guys. It means a lot when people say I have a solid game (few people have mentioned it), especially when it is from a really experienced PUA!

    I want to bring a wingman with me but I have no one here with me on campus at the moment with the tools. My best friend is in a LTR and he wouldn't come to meet a new girl, especially as he has a slight confidence issue around new people.

    The other is a good friend with a good heart but at the same time he's not the best looking guy in the world and I doubt he would be able to hold a good conversation with a new woman (the cockblocker). I could spend time with him and teach him the PUA tactic's but it all needs internalising, I taught him a few things about not looking needy and desperate but he proved he still is by asking out a girl that said she wasn't interested multiple times after I taught him about cat-string theory and remaining the dominant one along with other stuff.

    He is an option and I can sit down and teach him basic conversational techniques but I was thinking of ringing her tomorrow afternoon, setting up something for later this week and then flaking by saying I forgot I have a meeting with one of my activist groups and I need to be there (My own DHV tactic).

    Another thing I could do is try and bring a friend with me who is a girl to start a jealousy plot (I have an option of 3 and they are good looking girls), getting this pivot to make friends with the cockblocker, allowing me to as meteora said to gain rapport and use the Boyfriend Destroyer.

    Which route should I favour or if there are any other tactics that people have that would be good in this situation?
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    Default Re: Help needed with girl in "Shakey relationship"

    I wonder if we she said she was knocking off a t three she was indeed hinting, sometimes girls in a relationship can easier to f/close on the first meeting than single women. Right there and then could of been your oppotunity to replace some of the zest back into her life. You have to be careful now not to end up in the friend zone. She doesn't need more male friends, she either wants someone to replace her bf or a fuck. You should still meet her with a mate but isolate her afterwards.
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    Default Re: Help needed with girl in "Shakey relationship"

    Yeah, I'm going to speak to the AFC when I see him next and see if he's up for it. But I didn't understand what you said in the first sentence, can you please elaborate as to what you meant?
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    Default Re: Help needed with girl in "Shakey relationship"

    Update: Just talked with the HB7 on the phone, she says she a bit busy but wants me to come to the shop tomorrow to set this thing up. Her friend also came to the phone and talked too, she said she was in a relationship aswell *rolls eyes* and not to bring a weird guy with me. I said "nah, hes a good guy, trust me, I keep good friends". They said thats cool.

    I'm going to sit down with my "Wingman" later tonight and tell him the plan and teach him a few things so things will hopefully go smoothly. The HB7 sounded pretty happy on the phone despite her telling me she's had a long day so that should be a good sign, she basically lit up when I said who I am on the phone.

    My game plan would be to gain some rapport with the HB7 and her friend then after a bit (10-15 minutes) I'm going to ask her "Hey I got something cool that you will enjoy but I can only do it without anyone else being around, lets go outside for a minute, I also want a quick smoke".

    If she starts acting uncomfortable with her leaving her friend, I will neg with "Haha, don't be so nervous besides if you really need to then you can shout rape" With a smirk on my face.

    This will be my platform to perform the cube on her, proceed onto the Boyfriend destroyer then a palm read which I will leave on a cliff hanger by using a false time constraint "Hang on, whats the time? Oh crap, I've just realised that I've got a meeting with Amnesty international in Maidstone in 2 hours, I need to go soon. Tell you what though, lets just chill out again at some point and I can tell you what I read".
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    Default Re: Help needed with girl in "Shakey relationship"

    Not sure saying you can only show her when no one is around is the best route...assuming she isn't comfortable yet. The routines you will run are perfectly fine with people around and she may catch that once you start. Also I don't suggest you use the rape comment. Its a bit intense sounding.

    Simply tell her "Hey I'm gonna grab a smoke. Come with me so I can show you something cool." If she resists hen tell her "Lol oh well. Guess I'll show someone else." or to turn your rape comment " Hey I'm trusting you right now. But don't think for a sec that if you start to get fresh I won't scream rape!" Remember you are the prize she is trying to win over.

    P.S. I think a more productive response to her friend assuming you'd bring a friend would've been "I find it weird that you'd assume I have weird friends." Just my take on it.
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    Default Re: Help needed with girl in "Shakey relationship"

    Thanks for the advice, I really need to get the "I'm the prize" mentality into my head more often but yeah I will take these on and use them. That is why I post these things so I can get help on these situations and what needs tweaking.
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