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    Exclamation I just put a lot of effort into this thread. Input needed!!!

    Here's the basic situation:

    Found an HB8 on OKcupid...

    Met her in central park... brought a pint of good ol Jack Daniels... She was hesitant to drink, even though drinking was implied prior to the date. I started getting significantly drunk.. she had a few tiny swigs and was probably hardly even buzzed. Eventually... I came across her first shiRt test ... she started telling me about the last OKcupid dates she went on and how she had to tell each respective boy that she was NOT going to kiss them... I was slightly insecure (in my head, of course, not visibly) and took this as her saying "I am not going to kiss you." She even went on to tell me about how the last guys who tried to kiss her apologized after their failed attempts..

    I laughed and mocked them and their apologetic natures... and eventually spun the situation around on her by saying something to the extent of.

    "Look, I had a nice time here, but you seem rather difficult, kind of like an emotional/sexual brick wall... I think I am going to leave."

    I could immediately see her emotional state turn around.. she was shocked... as if nobody has ever tried to leave her before... she got noticeably flustered and then i said..

    "wow... you do like of look like you're taking this news hard. I wonder if I should reconsider... well.. there's only one way to find out"

    Then I moved in for a kiss... she was mildly hesitant but eventually obliged. We made out for a little, she was an awkward kisser and I couldn't tell if she was just not that into me or if her lack of sexual experience (which she did elaborate on) made her a bad kisser in general.

    She abruptly stopped the make out sesh and proceeded to "wah wah wah we're in public" which was true... we were in the middle of a field in central park flooded with kids... I ended up following her back to her place (with out asking permission...) I just kept making excuses at each step of the journey...

    i.e. when she got on the train I just told her

    "I am just going to take this train deep into the night and see where it takes me"

    then we got to her stop

    "Well.. i'm already here... might as well walk you to the door"

    Then at her door

    "God.. I am really thirsty.. just let me come have a quick drink of water"

    I went in we made out some more.. she still seemed weird about it.. or maybe it's in my head.. and I started fingering her (if this qualifies as adult content please give me a warning... don't ban me) for a little bit... she started to forget about logic and live in the moment and enjoy... then all of sudden she abruptly stopped and kicked me out with plans to hang out the next saturday ... she said she would let me sleepover then.

    I do very little contact for the week leading up to Saturday... and finally she tries to flake on me... through various text tactics I made her unflake...

    Date two rolls around and she seems very disconnected at the start of the date... she tells me she had made some rules for the night... I have to leave by 1AM (contradiction to her sleepover promise) and I am not allowed to get belligerently drunk again.

    This immediately puts me in a noticeably frustrated mood, but I quickly recover and work my way into this stage where i decided i just didn't care anymore.. and I started to lightly making fun of her for her lifestyle and being such a tightwad with all of her rules.. it got kind of relentless.. then I remembered how threatening to leave the last time worked for me.. so i tried to implement it again.

    "Look, you really are just difficult.. I think I am going to go"

    Then it got quiet as we were heading back towards the subway (which is literally an inch from her doorstep)... dead silence...

    Then I just grabbed her hand and followed her into her place...

    I convinced her to poor a cup of her room mates delicious whiskey and mix it with some yummy organic lemonade... we ended up getting a nice buzz going...

    Long story short.. we started to watch a movie.... we made out... I fingered her a little more... she REALLY got lost in the moment... but for some reason... I decided to abruptly stop... I guess to see her reaction... this was my fatal mistake... she zipped up her absurdly fast. Then I joked she is like fort knox...

    Anyways... eventually... I got too drunk... and sloppy... and my consequent insecurity led me to believe that she was not really into me... rather than just wanting to take it slow... which in retrospect makes a lot of sense.... So I actually said something like "well.. this has been fun... see ya..." then left .... then realized I left my headphones.... and called her while I was in her stairwell .... when she met me in the stairwell she kind of looked like she wanted to reconcile but I grabbed by headphones and just said "bye" and left really fast with out looking back.

    I don't know... I am just venting...

    Questions:

    Will a girl kiss you/ let your hands wander down her pants if they aren't really THAT into you?

    Have you ever kissed a girl and felt like they just aren't that into you?

    Am I being too impatient?

    How should I deal with this situation? It's been three days of NC so far.

    Did I ruin my chances with the way I chose to leave?

    HELP ME.. IF I JUST TYPED THIS WHOLE THING FOR NOTHING I WILL BE VERY SAD

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    Default Re: I just put a lot of effort into this thread. Input needed!!!

    wow honestly I felt awkward reading this lol.. talk about a solid LMR shield... I think you have to tone down the drinking step one, most girl do not want a drunk around.

    Will a girl kiss you/ let your hands wander down her pants if they aren't really THAT into you?
    - Um she is into you, but not sold on you is what it seems like. You got kicked out with her setting up a date2 which means she liked you.

    Have you ever kissed a girl and felt like they just aren't that into you?
    -"he's just not that into you" check that movie out
    -I've made out with chicks that suck at kissing and I turn out to be the one not into it, and they know it.. could be her was of countering you not enjoying it

    Am I being too impatient?
    Impatient.. no, but your game seems to need more work. You need to implement kino, and make her work for everything. It seems like she is into you, but you are not giving much of a chasing and forcing your way into things. IMO

    How should I deal with this situation? It's been three days of NC so far.
    If you want to see her again, text her and set up a date. 3 days NC you are free to msg her once.

    Did I ruin my chances with the way I chose to leave?
    -No, but you may have blow a chance to further the relationship

    you can be direct, but in a more subtle fun way. Some of your directness came off as jerk-ish in the post.

    Hope this helps mate

    Keys:
    Tone down the alcohol
    Add Kino
    Less direct negative emotions
    More pull for the amount of push you do
    Make sure you establish comfort and rapport. Winning her intellectually is much easier.

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    Default Re: I just put a lot of effort into this thread. Input needed!!!

    Thanks a lot man. I am not new to girls but I am new to the science behind it. My game certainly could use some work..

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    Default Re: I just put a lot of effort into this thread. Input needed!!!

    Ah all our games need some work

    good luck in your next encounter.

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    Default Re: I just put a lot of effort into this thread. Input needed!!!

    Situation update: so i texted her two nights ago saying "sorry i was kind of a schmuck." Pretty much assuming i'd never hear from her again. She texted me back after over two says saying "thanks for the apology. Good luck in life." Is this meant to be taken literally? Or do i still have a chance and this is her revenge? Thoughts pleeeease.

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    Default Re: I just put a lot of effort into this thread. Input needed!!!

    I would take that literally. Close the folder on that one and move on.


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