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    Default Whats my next move

    Hey team,

    Currently gaming a sweet blonde who is basically a FWB but we've put no title on it...shes a good girl and we know were just having sex, with no attachment.

    Anyways heres my dilemma. Im into a this brunette HB8.5/9..... Were in the same class and have hooked up or the first time about a month ago... After we hooked up she missed two classes in a row. ( Class is once a week). Was she avoiding me? DId she like me and was scared to see me?? .... Anyways she comes back to class, this was 3 weeks ago. We chat and make plans to grab a drink before class the following week. We grab a quick one and have a great time. I kino, run some game, and she laughs at everything I say. I buy her a $4 dollar drink. After class we all go to a bar. She basically sits with another guy at the bar for an hour and talks to him.. the rest of our class and me are outside and i notice but stay calm. She then comes outside to the rest of us and sits on this other guys lap in front of me. SHe is a TJI/R and I feel she wants a reaction from me. Though some of the class says she's into this other guy which I just ALPHA up and don't react.

    Anyways as she was leaving I walked her to her car, and because I was internally pissed she talked to other guy instead of me, I kinda cavemaned her and threw her on her hood and slapped her butt. She wasn't upset but kinda smiling, but not totally happy. She left and that was two weeks ago. I obviously don't call, or txt her ever. Only when I built the attraction some months back and she was the one always txting me. I only txt now to set up hang outs. Which we've had two so far.

    So this week in class I was anxious to see her,and saw her talking to the guy people say she likes, but Im not sure if their into each other or not, it doesn't really matter honestly. I was still pissed inside about her actions at the bar the week before. So I ignored her, not seeming needy, and when we saw each other I said hey bff and we hugged and she gave me a strong one... Later in class, I sat next to another girl and she saw me talking to her the whole time( giving her some of her own medicine) and then she saw me talking not the phone with another girl.... I left class early and didn't hang out at bar after with everyone...

    So basically I dont really call or txt her. We are attracted to each other, and I want her. WHat should I do?? Should I initiate more contact and invite her out somewhere?? I feel like If I text her I'll give my power away and seem needy. But I don't really txt her at all. What should I do?? Damn its hard when the games on your side of the fence,,,,

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    Default Re: Whats my next move

    Have you slept with her before? When say 'hook up' are you meaning you hung out or got together physically? It all seems a bit random with her, you're seeing her at class and at the uni bar. If you want her you eventually have to make a move and engineer a situation where you can kiss her or escalate it further. I wouldn't worry about the other guy and I would keep a few other girls in the pipeline (as you are doing). But essentially you have to ask her out and that means showing some interest rather than going with the flow. (she already knows your interested anyway). If she says yes pull out all stops, show her a good time and kiss/fark her. If she says no move onto your plan B and completely ignore her without showing any sign of being pissed off. Ask her out in person if you can. She may be flirting with a whole bunch of people and none of them are directly asking her out. I feel maybe you're staying idle and holding back too much because you're worried about being needy or beta. And maybe some oneitis. Or you are getting frustrated at her due to the other guy. Stay strong to your inner game. Ask her out, make it happen somewhere more private away from the risky social settings and if it doesn't work out move on to new chicks.

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    Default Re: Whats my next move

    Thanks WhiteDragon,

    Ive only fingered her and passed out next to her on my bed. My buddy was sleeping 4 feet away on my couch. Definitely a fucked up situation to fuck. I think your right, I always seem to not show enough interest. She knows I like her and I know she likes me. Would you suggest I call her when Im out and invite her to meet up for a drink? or do you think I should ask her to dinner or a casual night date, just the two of us?

    Also, she's HB9... She gets hit on all the time, and tells me how people in class txt her or FB her "your hot" "lets get together sometime", and she laughs it off.... So thats why Im worried ill be categorized as those chumps, if I hit her up..... BUt, if I think about it, IM being dumb cause she's into me! I just freak out all the time that "Im wasting too much time, and she's going to lose attraction towards me if I don't close soon"!!! and that KILLS me and makes me total AFC. I built a lot of ATTRACTION , she's not gonna lose all that all of a sudden.... I just have to keep my frame Strong and not over think shit.

    Thanks bro

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    Default Re: Whats my next move

    When she came out and sat on his lap you needed to do something subtle yet stern. For example if you were outside smoking as soon as she went and sat on his lap I would of flicked the ash from the cigarette in their direction but not make it look like it was on purpose, (its the small subtle things that count). As far as walking her to her car make up an excuse to walk her to her car "i have to go that way anyway I forgot something in my car I guess ill save you from boogy men just this once".

    Bring another girl thats really into you, we all have one.

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    Default Re: Whats my next move

    Quote Originally Posted by inter1010 View Post
    Thanks WhiteDragon,

    Ive only fingered her and passed out next to her on my bed. My buddy was sleeping 4 feet away on my couch. Definitely a farked up situation to fark. I think your right, I always seem to not show enough interest. She knows I like her and I know she likes me. Would you suggest I call her when Im out and invite her to meet up for a drink? or do you think I should ask her to dinner or a casual night date, just the two of us?

    Also, she's HB9... She gets hit on all the time, and tells me how people in class txt her or FB her "your hot" "lets get together sometime", and she laughs it off.... So thats why Im worried ill be categorized as those chumps, if I hit her up..... BUt, if I think about it, IM being dumb cause she's into me! I just freak out all the time that "Im wasting too much time, and she's going to lose attraction towards me if I don't close soon"!!! and that KILLS me and makes me total AFC. I built a lot of ATTRACTION , she's not gonna lose all that all of a sudden.... I just have to keep my frame Strong and not over think sh1t.

    Thanks bro
    If she is used to lots of attention then you have to be the strong contender and stand out from the crowd. By simply taking initiative and directly asking her out (what you ultimately want) she will have to at least recognise that confidence. If you just call her when you're out it's ok, if you are somewhere fun, but asking her out on a proper date will make it a little more serious and force her to also focus her attention. For all you know all the other guys are just texting trying to impress her. Be more mature, strong and calm. This is just my opinion. I personally do not like competing with other guys, so I don't challenge them but get creative and climb into her heart through my own door and often that is simply by being direct or being different. I also don't like waiting around wondering about a girl or going AFC. So I try make it happen or move on.

    Doing something that will blow her away or sweep her off her feet is going to elevate you. Casual dinner cannot be beaten. The emphasis is in getting her alone away from the university scene and trawling out her deeper women emotions through great conversation and mood. That will build a connection or strengthen the connection you already have. If she brings up whether you like her or not or starts sh1t testing you remain relaxed and resist the urge to tell her how beautiful she is. Compliment her certainly a little but maybe say she's cute or you like her style. If you have already had some fun with her, and she let you, she is already open to the potential of sex but beware of how fast the window of opportunity can close. Make a solid effort and usually girls will reward you. They are master PUA themselves remember. You don't have to spend much money on a night out, it's conversation, kino and sexual escalation that you want to be aiming for and avoid being AFC or nervously in limbo. Good luck!

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    Default Re: Whats my next move

    Thx whitedragon!!!

    Can you please go into detail on why you think there is a window of time, before she doesn't want to fuck anymore? ... That is my biggest fear and it makes me all AFC. I'm afraid shes over cause I hooked up 3. 1/3 weeks ago and nothing has happened after except just going out b4 class and building comfort. W/ kino, jokes.. What should I do now? Im afraid she's gone cold. Maybe? Should I invite her to dinner. ?? Casual hangout? Or invite her to meetup for a drink when I'm out and just put the moves on her?? Please help with what's my best bet!!! Thx so much bro

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    Default Re: Whats my next move

    Quote Originally Posted by inter1010 View Post
    Thx whitedragon!!!

    Can you please go into detail on why you think there is a window of time, before she doesn't want to fark anymore? ... That is my biggest fear and it makes me all AFC. I'm afraid shes over cause I hooked up 3. 1/3 weeks ago and nothing has happened after except just going out b4 class and building comfort. W/ kino, jokes.. What should I do now? Im afraid she's gone cold. Maybe? Should I invite her to dinner. ?? Casual hangout? Or invite her to meetup for a drink when I'm out and just put the moves on her?? Please help with what's my best bet!!! Thx so much bro
    Well its hard to know exactly not knowing the girl but generally when things work out they happen pretty smoothly. If you know what you want go out and get it. That is being Alpha. Holding back being unsure signals to her you are unsure. You have to be the guy who knows what he wants, how to get it and that taps into the evolutionary mindset of being a provider, the hunter, the guy who can protect and support a family. Now I'm not saying she is looking for a husband right now but by tapping into being the Alpha you become a desirable successful male. Women will usually sleep upwards or sideways but rarely down. Be the up guy. Up guys don't hesitate. They fire the arrow into the bison and bring that sucker back to the cave with some wild honey.

    Asking her on a proper date is the hardest move so it is the bravest. I would re-kindle great conversation where you start seeding yourself as a potential mate and getting her emotional/sexual juices flowing again. This could be done by asking if she liked kissing you a few weeks back. 'how did it make her feel?' or 'That's a nice dress...make your legs look taller'. Tease her a little once you have comfort but in your situation you want to build moire than demolish. Throw a sh1t test back at her: 'did you miss me?', 'what do you think of my new shirt?'. Push pull. Elevate yourself. Listen to her body more than her words. Spend your time in between doing some interesting things so you have some alpha conversation hooks 'my buddies (social group, popularity) and I went surfing the other day, the waves were incredible, I love that feeling of being free (Im in control of my destiny and a calculated risk taker). We saw 6 dolphins (cuteness hook)'. Just an example. It could be anything. 'Have you read this book? It's about a guy and a girl who fall in love while in paris blah blah blah'. Women like smart funny men, show off your intellect. Indiana Jones man - the guys a smart hero...he shoots the guys with swords with his gun...never forgets his hat...and is a professor.

    3-4 weeks is not long but you have no idea what other guys are doing with her or what feelings she may have for other guys. So I would bring that whole thing to a boil to better ascertain what she really thinks of you and so she also has to respond. Otherwise she will end up thinking it was just a bit of drunken fun between you two. Asking her out will force her into a corner so to speak. Your intentions are clear and she will have to put her cards on the table. Holding back displays you are not sure. Asking her out as a friend with the aim of kinoing later also signifies you are trying to come in beta style from a weak friends perspective sideways. As I think Xavier said elsewhere on these forums, you have to be prepared to loose her to get her. If you make a bold move and next time you see her alone at class or wherever just confidently ask 'lets go out for dinner tonight, I know this awesome place with casual but delicious food, crisp refreshing wine and sometimes they have a hip jazz band, are you free?' if she is not organise the next day, the day after, the day after that. If she starts flaking you will at least get a sense that she has lost interest or might be seeing someone else and as hard as it is to face at least you are no longer in emotional limbo. And she will always remember your offer and confidence (which must be good). So make the date offer irresistable. 'C'mon, it will be fun, we'll have a laugh, we like talking to each other' (connection). See no offense but your language is like 'Im afraid she's gone cold?....Maybe??'. Snap out of that and assume you are the best guy in the whole world and it is her loss if she declines your offer. When you make a confident bold move with an irresistable offer, even if she refuses, she will likely understand that you have the potential to do that again with someone else...and if she does refuse of course you will do exactly that by moving on to another girl. You have to warm her back up by warming yourself up to be the awesome hot dude you are. If she says yes to a date, its easy...you already know she likes you to a degree and you can judge how she feels about you by what she is wearing. Has she made an effort? Is she wearing makeup and perfume, nice shoes? Does her body language signify she is still attracted to you? Does she copy your moves or play with her hair, does she laugh at your jokes and get all empathetic and eye fluttering when you talk about you and your friends saving beached whales (whatever awesomeness you are qualifying yourself with). You can get all that out of asking for a date. If you ask her out too casually or from a friendship perspective she is not forced into making or not making an effort. If she really is not interested, at least you know and can start gaming other girls. There's plenty of them and if she see's how confident you are in what you want and getting it, you might get her later.

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    Default Re: Whats my next move

    WOW Brother!!!!

    That was honestly the best information I could have received. And the best info I have ever received on these forums!!! Thank you so much!.... I don't know why I struggle so much when I get closer to girls... I can attract them easily, but when I feel something for them Im a fucking AFC sometimes.... Your right!!! who cares if she's gone cold or not. Im gonna push forward and push hard, and if she flakes more than once I'll know its over and never ask her out again..!!! Thats the only way to get info without being an AFC and asking her "where do I stand?".... She's never flaked on me and has always showed interest. Im just a little gun-shy sometimes but always ALPHA... Im going to go for it and ask her out tomorrow to hang out Saturday... Im actually 75% chance I'm going to Vegas Sat-MON, but i'll ask her just in case I don't go.

    fuck.... just gotta knuckle up and be over it if it doesn't work!!!!! Brother I owe you. Im really good at GAME, and If you ever need advice in any way give me a shout. Trust me I'm sooo much better at giving advice then I am receiving it, when Im an emotional AFC about something!!!

    Appreciate the long helpful replies and Ill keep ya updated!!

    Cheers!!!


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