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Thread: I'm Too Good at DHVing

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    Default I'm Too Good at DHVing

    I've become absolutely amazing at DHVing. I'll mention some story about how I was just in China and met the most adorable girl who had never seen someone who didn't have black hair because everyone there has black hair. Or how I met a Victoria Secret Model when I was on National TV. Or that I have to go because I meditate at 5am every morning and I'm a Zen Buddhist. (this is all 100% real).

    The last set I've had a girl say that I'm the "most interesting person in the world." Another girl said to me in a joking way, "wow, WHO ARE YOU?? no seriously"

    I could have at this point walked away and had her chase me (and she would), but we were on a date and it was only 30 mins so it wouldn't be cool. So instead she kept asking me questions and expect me to answer them out. I'm very direct and try to switch the frame.

    For example, I did the, there's a lot of beautiful people, but maybe you got lucky, tell me three things about you why I should get to know you better. They didn't really have anything to say at all.

    Since I'm only 18, no girls around my age have any ambition or have done anything interesting, so they feel like shit compared to me. So I almost over disqualify them, while not even directly doing it.

    I could just spit pure game without my DHV stories and be successful, but I feel like that would be a waste. Any ways to control them or make it work?

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    Default Re: I'm Too Good at DHVing

    you should only use dhv's that are true!! girls can pick up on this, sometimes it will even sound like your bragging if you use dhv's too much, i recomend focusing on the girl and her interests and throwing in a few dhv routines and teasing her about what she says

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    Default Re: I'm Too Good at DHVing

    They are all true.

    They don't think they are fake or bragging either, they just think that I'm too mature.

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    Default Re: I'm Too Good at DHVing

    I would say using a routine or bouncing around would be good after DHVing. After my first DHV I let conversation flow for a bit and then bring my target into isolation or if I'm already with her I would run the cube/palm reading on her to make her feel slightly better about herself but put alot of push-pull so you DON'T convey too much interest.

    After my 3rd DHV story when she is qualifying herself to me I would run the rose napkin routine (this is first date). This is to show that even though she is still below my level I still like her. Also convey interest in other things, C-shape smile routine is good for this or a decent compliment on her dress would work wonders.

    Just try not to mis-calibrate these things and do not throw them at the target, this is try-hard. I keep 5 good, grounded stories that show I'm above average but I'm a realist aswell as an idealist. I mean, no ones going to think a person who does activism, plays football (soccer), plays guitar and drums who can also speak 2 different languages apart from english and is in the middle of writing a book is a over ambitious nor is he a loser.

    Plus I add a few stories of pre-selection when it comes to palm reading and saying that spending excessive hours with girls lead to me becoming more intuitive (not in that way of course but you get the gist of it).

    Just remember not to over DHV but when you have been talking to a target just keep it to 2-3 stories maximum between opening and setting the time-bridge. My list is, talk about activism, move onto palm reading with the DHV added to it and if things are heating up then a true story on being an animal-lover after helping my friend who was a girl when we where kids after seeing a birds nest on the ground and how I fought to get the eggs rescued. Stuff like guitaring and knowing different languages is kept for later. Leave a bit of Mystery in there
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    Default Re: I'm Too Good at DHVing

    After you've established your value and hooked her interest, change your goal

    Ask her questions like you suggest, "tell me something about you that would surprise me", or whatever other questions you can find to elicit values

    When she tells you interesting things or does something interesting, then show your interest in her.

    Girls want to earn your interest. Guys instinctively think you should show interest after you've showed your own value, but it doesn't come off as earnest this way. If a girl does something cool then you give her IOI's, it feels more legitimate to them
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    Default Re: I'm Too Good at DHVing

    With more and more practised you become more and more relaxed with every set.

    I remember the first few sets I opened and having my heart beating so hard. Now, I barely flinch and everything is perfectly calibrated.

    The other day my wing said to me, "Wow you're really calm." And I didn't realize it but I was.

    As a general rule, approach with just a little more energy then the set you're opening.

    I want to put in the least amount of energy when picking up, why put more then you need?

    Good luck.

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    Default Re: I'm Too Good at DHVing

    You come off as an arrogant prick. That's what these women see, too. How could they possibly live up to your expectations?

    The most interesting man in the world doesn't go braggart, full-on. He includes others in his experiences and lets them tell his stories while he stands back and fills in the gaps, while reaping the benefits of being sought after.

    Also, most young women are FULL of ambition. The world is full of opportunity and they are ready to start chasing their dreams.
    I have failed more than most men have tried.

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    Default Re: I'm Too Good at DHVing

    Your good but you know too little about the world. There are plenty of dudes and girls with more ambition and drive then you out there. 90% -95% of them are going to be dull with no drive like you said. But there is probably like 5% out there who are more badass than you so if you feel like youre uninterested its because you actually havent set your standards high enough and arent looking for that 5%. Bill Gates was probably one ridiculously driven guy at your age. He probably did ridiculously complex stuff and had more money then than you will have in your entire life. But Im sure he wasnt going around telling everyone about it. And there are plenty of ridiculous athletes and smart people who are doing more things in a single day than some people do in a month.
    Im only saying this because I can easily find someone to shut me up if I 'claim' to be much better than them now.
    5% is still millions of people. Theres plenty of people who would hear your story and be like 'so you met a model. I meet dozens of models every single day. And I doubt she was actually attracted to you anyways. Ive had many big models as my girlfriend.' or 'Well... at least what were you on national tv for? oh it was pure luck haha cool... I get on national tv very often for my success in the music/film industry' or 'So what you went to china? I have done some ridiculous exploits in china that would boggle your mind. oh what did you do? showed them your hair? cute.'
    Or.... 'So you meditate in the morning? Well I am actually deeply philosophical and I find most amateurs like you usually just pretend to meditate and just sit there since they dont know what the heck meditation is actually for.'

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    Default Re: I'm Too Good at DHVing

    Hey PurpleM, it's exactly like RedBaron said. Girls who are HB8 will go for guys they percieve to be a 7 - 9. If you DHV enough to be seen as a 10 then they will not feel qualified, they will think their value is not up to yours and will think you don't have any REAL reason to be attracted to them.

    This is where the "why are you interested in me?" LMR comes from. Don't show interest until they have shown that their value (beyond looks) is near your own.


    Quote Originally Posted by The Red Baron View Post
    After you've established your value and hooked her interest, change your goal

    Ask her questions like you suggest, "tell me something about you that would surprise me", or whatever other questions you can find to elicit values

    When she tells you interesting things or does something interesting, then show your interest in her.

    Girls want to earn your interest. Guys instinctively think you should show interest after you've showed your own value, but it doesn't come off as earnest this way. If a girl does something cool then you give her IOI's, it feels more legitimate to them
    DTF HB's omw 2 LTR


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