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    Default Plotting my next move with this HB9 at work

    Hey guys, I hope everyone is have an awesome time honing their craft at pick up. I know I am but I want to know if I'm going in the right direction with the hot and slightly older blonde girl at work. The work is cleaning flats (I know, sounds lame and shitty but I work with my best friends with a free flat and good pay) at my University campus which will end next friday and we don't have work until sunday/monday.

    Ok, I will give a quick run down of what I gather of her so far. She's about 5'7, blue eyes, blonde, good body, not very smart (that's sugarcoating it), she drives (something I have not done yet) and she's around 21-22 while I'm 19 going into my second year of University.

    The situation: I'm a fat guy (losing weight, on a new diet and I exercise nearly everyday), brown skinned (indian looking really) but I'm always happy, always alpha and have a lot of energy (probably the most out of everyone on the job). I'm also seen as a smart-ass and a bit of a joker around everyone. I have been in the pick up scene properly for around 2 months and I have had numerous amounts of dates, number closes, kisses closes and 1 f-close so far. We have been working since June but the group was sort of segregated between the contracted cleaners that she is apart of and the casual summer cleaners that I'm a part of.

    However, recently both the groups have been mixing up as we need to get campus up to gear for freshers week so we have been seeing a lot of each other for the past week. So far all I have really done is got into a few short conversations with her about arbitrary things such as the other day my friend Jade was stressing over a driving lesson and I told her to calm down, she threw a little bitch fit at me and I was calm and collective and just said "Ok cool, I'm just giving you advise" Then she ran off. This was all in front of the HB9 which we will call Stacy. She said "Wow she's stressed". I said "Yeah and that's what I get for giving good advice huh? Oh well not my problem" all said with a smile on my face. She said "Yeah, it's a shame". Then I said "I should stop giving out advice like this, might have to start charging people before hand". We laughed and I went off to do more cleaning.

    Another conversation we had was when one of the older cleaners was calling me and my best friends music crap because at the time we where listening to heavy metal. Stacy jumped in and said "It's different not shit". I said "Thank you, I don't go around calling everyone sheep for listening to the same music" all said with a smile. She laughed again.

    Yesterday me and my best friend where coming back from a block of flats with some towels that needed to be washed and they where dirty and scruffy. We met the group outside and Stacy asked "Oh, are those to be washed" Then my best friend replied with "No, I'm going to fold it up and give it back to them" in a very sarcastic tone. Then she said "Oh, ok" like she actually believed it. It was silent for a minute, then me of all people just had to burst out laughing while the whole group caught on and started laughing. She was embarrassed, at which point I high fived my best friend saying "Credit where credit is due man". Shortly after that I saw her and smiled while shaking my head and she started laughing out of embarrassment.

    Today at work me and few friends where discussing something random in the hallway, after I had said something my best friend said "Yeah, thats what I mean and Stacy is standing behind you". I went "what?" then she poked me on my sides and I kind of jumped and let her through (this seems like a very big IOI, she's escalating Kino). We laughed it off. Through the rest of the day she kept smiling at me and I would always smile back, sometimes with a smirk or a half smile.

    My next move was to sort of get her into isolation by taking her hand and bringing her into a Kitchen. I would do the Kino Gambit from Xavier (credit to him) where you discuss the two sides of the brain and to make her feel she was more interesting now then she was before. I would use the time constraint of being at work as an excuse to set something up with her, like coffee to talk because I feel there is something about her that I can't quite put my finger on. Number close her and carry on with work.

    The problem is, I'm not 100% sure if she's interested in me or just being nice and the second is the other cleaners are mostly old and quite gossipy but they sort of know I'm comfortable around women because of my overall confidence and leadership. I just don't want things to get blown out of proportion but at the same time who doesn't want a smoking hot blonde? So if I can get some feedback on how well I have done so far and if my next step is good enough or what I should do next instead then I would be very appreciative!
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    Default Re: Plotting my next move with this HB9 at work

    She is still in the early stages of interest. I would focus on still building attraction for now. But soon you should incorporate qualifying. Start off with a cold reading technique to show her you understand her on a deeper level. Then once she gives a few more IOIs then qualify her. Ask her if she is adventurous and spontaneous. Or if she is caring and loyal. Be prepared to walk away if she doesn't answer or tease her if her answer is half assed then walk away. Show her you are a man with standards and want to know if she meets those standards. You will become the challenge she wants to conquer. Have the mindset"I'm interested in you, but not won over yet." This should convey in your behavior towards her.
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    Default Re: Plotting my next move with this HB9 at work

    I know their's other methods of cold reading but would the cube and palm reading be good in this situation? That's why I wanted to go with that kino gambit because it's one in which that incorporates some form of cold readin (illogical/logical brain).
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    Default Re: Plotting my next move with this HB9 at work

    I actually haven't used the cube or any of those other ones. But I think it would be great and I think you should totally use them. Just try to only use one or two. Its easy to get her smiling and wanting you to do more and you kindly oblige. Avoid being the dancing monkey that's only there to entertain her. Just tell her you only do one free show.
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    Default Re: Plotting my next move with this HB9 at work

    Ye, I found the cube usually gets people hooked one way or another. I totally understand that whole dancing monkey theory. I keep my games and stuff to one or two per interaction. For attraction building should I continue with push-pull and DHVing for now?
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    Default Re: Plotting my next move with this HB9 at work

    Push/pull is one of those techniques that blurs the line between attraction building and qualification. I highly recommend it. Its like hitting two birds with one stone. And I prefer to use DHV stories as they come up rather than looking for an excuse to tell them. Its just more natural that way.

    You may even want to think about going the extreme with your push/pull statements. Such as "Omg I love you. Were getting married! But wait....i heard that you (pick a trait that would turn you off) so I want a divorce." Roleplaying is great.

    If you are able to use a genuine push/pull that would be even better. One of mine is to set myself up that I have trouble getting close to a woman because of my past. Of course this works better later on when you start to become more serious with each other. So roleplaying is a great fun way to start.

    So summary: Run the cube and some roleplaying and never forget to calibrate. If she isn't responding then dont keep spitting routines at her. Pay attention to her body language and investment in the interaction and always be willing to walk away.....for the moment lol.
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    Default Re: Plotting my next move with this HB9 at work

    Yeah thank's for that gameplan, it sounds like it should work. I'm going to the run the cube like always, it is my main selling point because 90% of girls I run it on love it to bits then go in with the role playing "Haha, omg I love you, we're so going to get married and have like these really cute kids with like a mixed tan with awesome green eyes but I you're going to the cheat on me with the gardener because I'm always travelling around the world on my job so you know what, I want a divorce!"

    Main question is, what do I do after this? Walk away or transition with a cold read and say "In all seriousness though, I like talking to you, there's more to you than I think most people see like an independent side of you that most people never get to see but I can tell that when you let it out it's really cool and that's what I like about you. Haha you can be so clumsy sometimes aswell, it's cute"
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    Default Re: Plotting my next move with this HB9 at work

    Well you want to reach a real level with her eventually. This could take some time and not happen at once. You want her to talk about herself in a way like she is trying to impress you. Then when she says something that catches your eye then use an SOI which is the most important ingrediant in qualification. An SOI is a Statement Of Interest so she now knows why you are interested in her and opens the doors for you to be allowed to show your interest without fear of rejection. Best used after she is attracted mind you, but there are exceptions. So calibrate.
    Ex: "Wow I think it's great that you like to feed the homeless. I love a woman that shows selflessness. However they usually get walked all over and I like strong women."

    Now you have openly given her a reason to why you are interested in her and can get to know each other while the teasing goes down alot beings that things are more serious now.
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