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    Default Re: calling a girl out on flaky behavior... ever ok?

    U know i was wondering what age she is. Because older woman kinda know what they want and how to play the game (even if only be instinct). If this girl is young, she may not even realize what she's feeling and flake. You may have to adjust the pua basics.

    I feel like some girls are so socially inept that they respond weird to pua stuff lol.

    EDIT: btw cycles are NEVER good. They breed predictability. Tmal suggestion is good. Follow his line of reasoning.
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    Default Re: calling a girl out on flaky behavior... ever ok?

    Me just being me, I would text her as if there were some kind of emergency, being completely ambiguous, and get her to go completely out of her way to meet you. Then just don't show up. She'll get the message and you will be better off never seeing her again.

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    Default Re: calling a girl out on flaky behavior... ever ok?

    I am rather new to the community, but I had read something by Tom Torero in the book "The Girlfriend Game" and he states that you have to have B.O.B (Boundaries on Bullshit).

    He goes on to say that if a woman plays games and or flakes, ditch them. Move on.

    I had a girl recently flake on me, where the night before we had set up a date. When I arrived she was no where to be found. All I texted her was "That was not cool" and deleted her ass off of facebook. I end up seeing her again, but by then I have 2 other girls who want to spend time with me. She actually initiated contact, which I just ignored.

    Why put up with such shit?

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    Default Re: calling a girl out on flaky behavior... ever ok?

    Um ... flaking is not good. U should def not be cool with it.

    But Anuks, ditching her and deleting her off FB for 1 flake can signal that u are emotional and needy.

    When u get upset and do drastic things like that, it shows insecurity. Not saying u are, but thats what that behavior says.

    She should get negged ... definitely... but it has to come from an 'i could care less' attitude, not a 'she sux' attitude. Tell her it will be more difficult to get with u next time and that she is rude for flaking. Dont contact her for 2 weeks. She may change her attitude. If she makes it a habit, then ditch her.

    Completely ditching every girl for 1 flake is drastic lol. They all do it at one time or another ... sometimes due to simple logistics.
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    Default Re: calling a girl out on flaky behavior... ever ok?

    Lockdown, she actually flaked me once before. I don't think moving on so quickly is needy. I have woman in my life that actually want to be in my life and demonstrate this by not flaking.

    Why then would I put up with 1 girl who flakes, when I have 4-5 girls that don't? Too me, if I put up with her behavior that would be demonstrating, that I "need" her, despite her flaking.

    I just simply don't have time for it.

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    Default Re: calling a girl out on flaky behavior... ever ok?

    I see your point Anuks. Why would you waste your time with someone who seems to get into a habit of flaking.

    So beings that you no longer have any stake with this woman, why not humor yourself and try something new. Like not cutting her off and giving her shit about flaking. Watch what happens
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    Default Re: calling a girl out on flaky behavior... ever ok?

    That's an interesting view. I just thought, that I have enough negativity in my life. Maybe by not seeming to give a sh1t, would have been the way to go.


    However, I really don't want to be friends with this girl. Ce la vie.

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    Default Re: calling a girl out on flaky behavior... ever ok?

    I also agree with your logic Anuks. I have had many similar things happen with women.

    However, i use every woman for practice. For example, negging a girl who flakes keeps ur mind set correct. It also helps u stay fresh technique wise.

    But maybe thats just me ... the ones who are challenging help me practice all aspects of game. Its kinda like i friendzone them.
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    Default Re: calling a girl out on flaky behavior... ever ok?

    I have some history with flaky girls. Here is what I thought, what I learned and how I think now.

    One of the posters mentioned that he read in a book to not put up with her bullshit. You need to call her out on it and have a limit to "bullshit." Ross Jefferies has the same aproach when it comes to flaking. You let her know that it will not be tolerated and you dont put up with stuff like that.

    Mystery, on the other hand, preaches to never call a women out on her bullshit because the easy thing for her to do is to avoid you. He often says "are you they guy who sat at home and got all upset, or are you the guy who called over another women and forgot about it?

    I tend to agree with mystery on this one.

    Women are flaky creatures by nature. They flake on their friends, family, men, even themselves.

    I do agree with the poster that said he cuts off flaky girls because he has plenty others that value the time they spend with him....thats awesome, thats ideal.

    Calling a women out for flaking (in my experience) DOES NOT WORK!

    Logic would tell you that it shows you dont put up with bullshit, and that you are going to lay down rules for her to go by

    It doesnt work that way. Just by mentioning the flake it shows insecurity (from their point of view)

    The best thing to do when a women flakes is to make your life work for you. Dont let her not showing up ruin your day, night, or evening. Call your friends, call another women, get some work done, enjoy some alone time...just basicly get your mind over it and do something else

    When you talk to the flaker the next time, dont aproach the subject and if she does brush it off like it was no big deal and you forgot all about it.

    Heres where the key is:

    From that point you have to label this chick a flaker. That means there is still things in this world she rather be doing than spending time with you. Instead of calling her out on this (which wont change a thing) know that you now have to make it more difficult for her to see you next time.

    The more rare an opertunity to see you is, the less likely she will be to flake on you.

    You want to make your life look like the big fun thing she's missing out on....actually you want your life to BE the big fun thing she's missing out on. If your a fun person, enjoy your life, and have plenty of options, she will sence that and want to be a part of it.


    I personally dont like a women who flakes, but I wont next her because of a flake or two. Keep her in the rotation just know who she is and how to train her.

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    Default Re: calling a girl out on flaky behavior... ever ok?

    I appreciate your viewpoint ecudes. But the point in calling out a flake is this: Deepending on the situation, a girl may never find out where u were without her. I mean, some women i deal with live a little way off so its not like they check up or talk to my close friends.

    If you tell her what u did without her, then u are basically bringing it up anyway. The having a good time without her thing is a given. It is required. No question.

    But when you call out her flake, if u do it from a relaxed, indifferent mindset it shows confidence. U can describe all the fun u had all u want, but when someone tries to convince u they had a great time... isnt that showing approval seeking?

    All other guys tell her its ok that she couldnt come... other guys never speak to her again... some never bring it up.... calling her out is something most guys would never do. It marks u as different (again, as long as u arent saying it from an emotional, needy place)
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