Hello everyone, i been hitting a wall since i ever started sarging, till i found out about this forum and the game and what not i been relying on trial and error and have been mostly associating succes and failure with only just luck.
Incoming WOT skip to TL;DR if you feel lazy
Ill try to keep it short. Before understanding the game pretty much all i did was approach usually from the back and most of the time i asked the girl if she liked to dance, im an ok dancer but if she said no then taht would be the end of it. I have done this my whole life since i went out and from 40 girls maybe at most 5 agreed.
After making some research i found about openers or just start off being funny and relaxed. I have used this recently but i didnt have much succes, girls will simply just move away or turn their backs to me, i was even approaching from a good angle too.
Im not sure if i should keep trying after seeing a negative response from their part, i find it a waste of time for a girl that isnt just in the mood to keep firing openers at her (i havent fired more than 2, i know being needy is a no no).
Theres a (natural) PUA in our group that unfurtunately has a gf so he is kinda out of the business but he showed us that it isnt the girl that is not in the mood but us that go with a wrong attitude, the same girl that turn the back to me, talked to this guy like if he was an old time friend or smth, that moment i knew i was doing something wrong, but im still unsure what is, i went in with confidence a smile and relaxed body language, so logicaly the thing i did wrong was the opener, when the PUA went i dont know what she said to her but she instantly looked at him.
The last thing i want to ask is using negs, as far as im concerned most girls dont consider themselves a ten or the other way around a 7 consders herself a 10, so how are you sure when you can use a neg, because i think if i use a neg on a girl that has low selfsteem will be counterproductive and might scare her away, is there a way to spot when a girl is too full of herself be it a 6,7,8 and when a 9 or a 10 acts like a 6,7,8?
1) Is multiple (+2 or +3) use of openers a good idea if you get an instant negative response after the first one?
2) Using negs on 10's that think they are 6,7,8 and on 6,7,8 that think they are 10's. Anyway to tell when a girl is full of herself or the other way around before approaching them? I want to avoid missing a 10 cause she feels like a 7 by using a neg.
Thanks in advance for the answers!