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    benjam60 is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default No Success yet I know everything...help

    Hey guys,
    (Haha of course not everything sorry!!!!) I would really appreciate your help. I've probably compiled 75 pages of notes on game, ready mystery's book and up on Adam Lyon's stuff but I've gotten nowhere. I'm a decent looking guy in the last year of high school. I have a lot of trouble with good conversation because I feel a lot of the negs are unnatural and I'm not great at keeping conversation going. I never get attraction either. I do DHV and have really good stories. I FEEL HOPLESS AND ANY ADVICE OUT THERE WOULD BE AMAZING.

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    Rando9009 is offline PUA Forums Respected Contributor
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    Default Re: No Success yet I know everything...help

    Quote Originally Posted by benjam60 View Post
    Hey guys,
    (Haha of course not everything sorry!!!!) I would really appreciate your help. I've probably compiled 75 pages of notes on game, ready mystery's book and up on Adam Lyon's stuff but I've gotten nowhere. I'm a decent looking guy in the last year of high school. I have a lot of trouble with good conversation because I feel a lot of the negs are unnatural and I'm not great at keeping conversation going. I never get attraction either. I do DHV and have really good stories. I FEEL HOPLESS AND ANY ADVICE OUT THERE WOULD BE AMAZING.
    Im wondering if your getting the same problem as alot of us do, overload of information. Im guilty of this as well, but try to take a step back and focus on one thing at a time. Dont even worry so much about all the metbods and negs and everything until you first get confortable with general approaching... then add these things in one at a time.

    I recommend reading the books destroy approach anxiety, direct day game method by charlie valentino (found on kindle store or ebook on amazon. And i have NO affiliation with him at all! Just find them a good read). He goes on to explain that the overload of information for beginners is actually hurting things instead of helping! Keeping things simple is the way to go, and i agree.

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    benjam60 is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: No Success yet I know everything...help

    Already just helped me a lot!! I actually got myself over approach anxiety by approaching a lot of girls, especially in the street. I got kino down pretty well. What do you suggest I work on next so I see some success?

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    Rando9009 is offline PUA Forums Respected Contributor
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    Default Re: No Success yet I know everything...help

    Quote Originally Posted by benjam60 View Post
    Already just helped me a lot!! I actually got myself over approach anxiety by approaching a lot of girls, especially in the street. I got kino down pretty well. What do you suggest I work on next so I see some success?
    Ha no problem. I guess thats kind of hard to say without knowing your interactions better. But id say if your opening good, and even getting decent kino in, the next logical thing would be working on quickly and smoothly getting that number close in there! I mean dont push it, you still have to make sure the attractions there, but id say after a quick dhb story or something go for the number, or kiss!

    Question. What did you generally use as your opener or routine when you went through your "get over approach anxienty" stage? Im almost kind of the opposite right at the moment. After a relationship for awhile (and little practice) im still good at escalating interactions when i go ahead and open them, but believe it or not im kind of working on the aa again!


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