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    Default Hit a slump, what's not working?

    Hey guys, I have just started University on my second year and its freshers week. There's not as many people at University as last year because of the fee rise in the UK but still plenty of HBs to game. My ability to open a set incredible as my AFC friends watch in amazement and see this new and changed man. Right off the bat I don't believe in terms of appearance I am an attractive man but I do exercise, eat well and clean myself well. I am chubby and brown skinned, so I'm not some pop-star looking guy with nice muscles but I digress.

    My main problem is my number closes and even kiss closes. When I first started off around 2 months ago I was on fire and I had solid game but something feels like it's missing but I don't know what. I have revised the conquer your campus book, the mystery method and double your dating numerous times and I have a pad for my overall game plan that I use from opening a set to gaining their number.

    Everytime during mid-game or when its time to number close I get these things that keep re-occuring: I'm not giving out my number right now to strangers I just met (after a half an hour talk?)and they tell me to find them some other night and I get their number, one of their friends interrupts and they leave me to get a drink/dance, I didn't bring my phone out tonight/it died (this has happened 4 times in 2 days). Now I'm not saying I have not got one number close but I have had several but I see them the next night chatting to another guy who I know has little game but it's fucked up because they seem more interested in that guy than they did with me.

    It's just weird because I have high social proof, a lot of energy, funny, I'm pre-selected because I have a lot of lady friends as well. In one set when I opened the girl about 15 people I knew passed me and I high fived all of them including the girls and I got her number.

    I normally open, FTC, hook, fluff for a bit on University and other things like name and where they're from, tease/neg, DHV and make her qualify, fluff a little bit more on cooking/music then run the cube (they normally get hooked on this), a cold read, make her qualify again (beauty is common gambit), then go for palm reading but say it's too dark for that but I can show them around town and give them a palm read when I'm not busy and as long as they can behave themselves but this is where the excuses come in.

    My body language is in check, I'm normally cool with a few jokes up my sleeve and I punish with IODs and reward with IOIs so I'm just finding it really odd that I'm not doing as well as normal like I have low form. I'm not frustrated because I believe in continuous improvement and I will continue to go out there and game sets. If I can get some feedback on what's going wrong then it would be awesome so I can just improve.
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    Default Re: Hit a slump, what's not working?

    I think one big stumbling block is, you're going straight into rapport with the fluff talk, & completely skipping over the flirting/attraction phase.

    Those "Job-Interview" style questions will bore a girl to death in a matter of microseconds. (What's your name? Where ya from? What do you do for work? How do you like school? etc...)

    You want to establish a fun vibe right away & start flirting immediately. If she's having fun, she'll want you to have her number. If she's bored she'll refrain from swapping digits, because she'll be afraid of having to endure future boredom.

    I've seen guys spend 2 hours chatting a girl up & talking about common interests, thinking he was getting somewhere.... and he was! A speed pass straight to the "Friend Zone".

    In order to avoid that, it's important to establish the fact that you're interested in being MORE THAN friends, by using the correct mix of body language, flirting/teasing, and push-pull.

    Affect her emotions so she feels the fun energetic vibe. (Do that & girls will be giving you their numbers without you having to ask.)



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    Default Re: Hit a slump, what's not working?

    Yeah, I totally get it now. I haven't been as flirty as I normally would be, I don't hold back kino but I haven't been doing it straight out of the blocks so it makes sense now. Definitely going to add more push-pull and a childish kind of vibe to the conversation next time I'm out.
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    Default Re: Hit a slump, what's not working?

    in the book "mystery method" reread the a3 chapter, pay close attention to where it talks about getting her to invest, i think this is possibly your stumbling block, you need to get her to dhv to you and then ping some ioi's back, if she doesn't think your interested in her, then she won't want to give you her number. or the other possibility is that your body language may not be congruent with your cocky-comedy approach. wemon are very good at picking up on the little things that can hamper your game. the last possibility is that she see's you as a pickup artist or a fake, she may be thinking something like "how can this terrible looking guy have so much confidence" no offense, but thats the way girls think sometimes she may just be uncomfortable giving her number out, because of some factor your unaware of, like having some stranger send hurtfull messages to her in the past or something. hang in their buddy, you will get rejected alot until you get well calibrated to your social environment you are in


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