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Thread: After #Close sticking point. NEED HELP!!!

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    Default After #Close sticking point. NEED HELP!!!

    Hey guys!

    A little background on me here (skip to next paragraph if you want). Since coming out of the hospital for an ulcer (long story), I've had a new found attitude where I'm going for and creating as many opportunities as I can, not with just woman but life in general. I'm trying to enjoy my life as much as possible, and because of that my approach anxiety issues aren't that much of a problem as it's been the past 6 months.

    So to the point. I'm currently going to college, and I've gamed about 20 girls in the past 3-4 weeks. It's been fun to say the least even though more than half had b/fs or were married (sadly, those were the coolest girls). The other half I number closed and I was only rejected once. Now while that sounds good, I have serious problems following up with them or they flake. I've only had one Day 2 so far which ended terribly (Had little to do on my part BTW). Yes, I've read the text messaging guides and my initial interactions are normally fun. Some I was so sure I would get a Day 2 with because the conversation was good, but they either don't respond to my texts or stop texting before I even get a slight chance to set up a Day 2 (again, I've read the texting guides here).
    It's to the point where I'm getting really frustrated, "AFC" style and a little discouraged because I don't know what I'm doing wrong or how to improve. I always go direct (which always works fine and hooks them), I try to ask less questions and make more statements, I make them guess things about me (vice versa), and I'm always trying something new. The few things I can point out is that I don't kino enough other than the initial hand shake. I'm kind of a slow starter when it comes to comfort and rapport, and since there is so little time with our school schedules, I can't hold them for too long to build attraction or rapport. I'm just tired of getting blown out before I even get to do anything.

    So fellow PUA's... Please tell me. What am I doing wrong? what are some things I can do to improve? What are some things I can do/talk about with college girls that can build attraction/rapport faster? Please help me out LOL.

    Cheers~!

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    Default Re: After #Close sticking point. NEED HELP!!!

    Maybe don't let them guess so much. Questions are ok, just lead off them in an interesting way. Try show off your virtues and if you ask them out make it a simple, quick but attractive offer. Adverts on tv dont let you guess - but they dont reveal everything either. They make you remember. A name, a virtue, a dream, an attitude etc. You have to give them a good reason why they should remember you, date you and continue to date you. Be unique, charming, playfully cocky, bring up something about her, get her to start doing the talking. Whatever your style is they should be remembering you as someone unique and worthwhile. You can do that by being less technical/factual in conversation but more emotional. Women are emotional more than factual. You also need some physical charm - you need to look good or at least ooze experience and character if you want good chicks. You have to be the 'up' guy - the leader of the pack.

    Never get frustrated. It's fun talking to girls, even if they are married or leaving the city the next day. Be 100% confident and have no care whether they say yes or no. It doesn't all happen at once either. There are many girls that surprise me and start texting again after months of no contact (because I forgot about them) and then we date later. It's a numbers game and think positively because we have billions of sperm in our nutsack for a reason . Like golf, relax and keep a eye on the ball.

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    Default Re: After #Close sticking point. NEED HELP!!!

    After reading, your post ummm what's in it for the girl? You make them guess about you. You make statements, etc..where's the hook? What about the experience of meeting you was so wonderful that she can't wait to see you again? What can you do to give a wow experience, because if you give a woman a wow experience she will see you again. Game on, game up brother.

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    Default Re: After #Close sticking point. NEED HELP!!!

    Yeah, I see your point. I've been so focused on rapport and comfort that I never thought about sometime to hook them with. But I honestly wouldn't know what or how to do it really. How do you hook them, Suave?

    Quote Originally Posted by whitedragon View Post
    Maybe don't let them guess so much. Questions are ok, just lead off them in an interesting way. Try show off your virtues and if you ask them out make it a simple, quick but attractive offer. Adverts on tv dont let you guess - but they dont reveal everything either. They make you remember. A name, a virtue, a dream, an attitude etc. You have to give them a good reason why they should remember you, date you and continue to date you. Be unique, charming, playfully cocky, bring up something about her, get her to start doing the talking. Whatever your style is they should be remembering you as someone unique and worthwhile. You can do that by being less technical/factual in conversation but more emotional. Women are emotional more than factual. You also need some physical charm - you need to look good or at least ooze experience and character if you want good chicks. You have to be the 'up' guy - the leader of the pack.

    Never get frustrated. It's fun talking to girls, even if they are married or leaving the city the next day. Be 100% confident and have no care whether they say yes or no. It doesn't all happen at once either. There are many girls that surprise me and start texting again after months of no contact (because I forgot about them) and then we date later. It's a numbers game and think positively because we have billions of sperm in our nutsack for a reason . Like golf, relax and keep a eye on the ball.
    I let them guess sometimes, but I don't make it awkward or anything. It's just one of the things I like to do to make the conversation not only last a bit longer, but to make it more interesting as well. Age for example. I never ask. I get her to tell me what she does and observe. Then I say "Hmm... well you completed university for 4 years, and by the way you're dressed, I'm gonna guess that you're.. 22?". Sometimes I'm right and get a good reaction or I'm wrong LOL. You get the picture.
    But yeah, I find that I am unique in my own way. And my looks aren't an issue. I take care of myself and my body. It's just a hook that I need. I try to get my essential qualities out, but timing is always an issue and I start slow. I love talking to girls and I won't stop anytime soon. I even continue talking to the ones with B/F's because I just consider it practice. I'm just frustrated because I had no idea what I was doing wrong. But really, I guess I just need to connect with them a little better somehow and have a hook.


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