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    Global_man is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default ADVICE PLEASE! How do I escalate this HB?

    I need some advice!

    I've dated this hb five times now: 1. lunch 2. live music show then wine and dinner 3. dinner 4. she came to see me perform music and 5. last time we went ice skating. The dates are usually about a week or 2 apart. We get along really well and it's always fun..... but I'm stuck.

    When I try to physically escalate, beyond a hand on her knee or hold her hand in the ice rink or a hug goodbye, I get a nothing back and resistance of anything stronger.

    She's very attractive and has a really good job as a dancer teacher and as a dancer for a big pop star. She never suggests to bring other friends and seems genuinely interested.

    I'm a pretty successful PUA having slept with 20 girls this year and (from 7s to 8.5s usually.) and have a few regular girl friends who I'm totally honest with about everything/everyone I do. I can almost always have a girl in bed on the first or 2nd date but here I'm stuck.

    I'm leaving the country we're in permanently in a few month but would love to have something with this girl.

    I'd really love to get some experts advice! Thanks!

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    Shadowstorm is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: ADVICE PLEASE! How do I escalate this HB?

    She may have experience dealing with PUAs, in which case escalation is code to her for "I want to have sex." She also may just have morals and want to take it slow for a while. In both of those cases, you just keep doing what you're doing until you get a stronger signal one way or the other, and then act from there.

    Now, on the offchance that you aren't actually stuck waiting on her, I would guess that it's a matter of DHV. Five dates sets the bar for relationship material much higher than a standard pick up, and it will probably get higher with each new date. You need to break through her resistance of waiting for something amazing to happen, because she hasn't gotten that spark that tells her you're "the one" yet. On the upside, she keeps coming back, so she is interested and isn't seeking that spark elsewhere.

    Now, for one of your dates she went and saw you perform. Assuming the performance was good enough to impress her and you were an important part of it, you're on the right track. You need more of that, and things like that. Take her on dates where you can DHV and show her you are relationship material.

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    Default Re: ADVICE PLEASE! How do I escalate this HB?

    In my experience if its not escalating by the third date then your probably just "platonic dating" in her mind - that, or she doesn't put out.

    To get out of tje platonic dating zone (which is too d@m close to "teddy bear/cuddle buddy" status) maybe try a jealpusy plotline or an ultimatum or go back to A2 and start DHV -> Qualifying etc again.

    If she just doesn't put out then build sexual tension until she is wishing to change her morals - then hold her hand through the transition
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