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Thread: Should I be separating sarging friends and regular friends

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    Default Should I be separating sarging friends and regular friends

    Brand new to the forums. Hello all.

    Most of my guy friends are single and I've been trying to encourage them to go sarging with me. They're reluctant.

    I want to see them get out there because I'm sick of hearing them bitch about women, but do nothing about it.

    Is this a situation where you think it would be best to separate my friends from this aspect of my life?

    Has anyone else experienced similar issues?

    I feel like it's leaning me towards living two lives, which is fine with me.

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    Default Re: Should I be separating sarging friends and regular friends

    Mon - Fri most of the people I hang around with are older than me and they have families. They are very conservative. On my off days or weekends I have my party friends who live life on the edge, they are not PUA guys but they have genuine game so they are natural alphas who pull Hb10s all day long. I think maybe because some of them are musicians, bartenders, and club promoters? But anyways the point of the matter is that you have to do whats best to be successful. I have like 5 primary friends who I hang out with and we talk to girls and socialize with random people. But for the most part I ride solo.

    When I first came to the board my best friend who is abroad now was the perfect wing. We average around 10 girls a night, thats on the weekends. Since he is not around I had to learn how to solo and be strong with the force. I went out and solo and met more people and got more girls. Its funny, women tend to be more open when they see you hanging with yourself and meeting other people. You receive cool points from breaking out of your comfort zone and they consider guys like that fun.
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    Default Re: Should I be separating sarging friends and regular friends

    Thanks for the reply. I've felt compelled to encourage my friends to join me since we're all single males and around the same age. But it has become a source of frustration recently.

    When I'm out, it's usually with them. I'd gotten into the habit quickly number closing in brief instances when I'm separated from the group. However, a recent incident where I had met a group of girls and my friends refused to come join us has me reconsidering this approach.

    Maybe solo missions are in my future!

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    Default Re: Should I be separating sarging friends and regular friends

    There's nothing wrong with having separate groups of friends, I do.
    I'd say however if you want to go sarging with your friends, you should probably make sure they know something about game. There's nothing worse then one of your buddies cockblocking you, because he's not a good wing.

    It's incredibly easy to blow sets sometimes, all it can take is 1 or 2 stupid comments.

    I'm lucky to have met some good wings that have shared great advice, and been good teachers. If I'm hanging out with my AFC friends, it's simply with the intention to have some fun.

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    Default Re: Should I be separating sarging friends and regular friends

    So far I have only brought one friend into the game. I'm looking to bring more of them, but I don't feel they have the right qualities for it. As it can literally change your life (outside of just relationships) I look for specific traits. Some of them are honesty, strong respect for women, drive to succeed, and time management. There's plenty more but these are the big ones. If you have friends that display these traits, I'd say bring them in. No harm in it.

    Eventually, you will probably have to start only sarging with guys that know game. Whether it's natural or PUA stuff, it'll become necessary. I'm starting to have the same problems that have been stated in that my friends often can blow a set for me. I guess solo nights are in the works for me too!
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    Default Re: Should I be separating sarging friends and regular friends

    All your options kinda work

    It helps to have your 1 favorite wingman. Find someone you can work with and who can encourage you. Doesn't mean you have to abandon your friends, but if they're single and won't approach groups you opened, they're idiots
    Have at least 1 guy in the group who will, someone you can count on. Everyone else can sit in the corner if they like to while you meet more girls than they would ever even talk to
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    Default Re: Should I be separating sarging friends and regular friends

    Quote Originally Posted by KnightTurner View Post
    ...Some of them are honesty, strong respect for women, drive to succeed, and time management. There's plenty more but these are the big ones. If you have friends that display these traits, I'd say bring them in...
    This has been my initial attitude. I felt my friends would be good candidates. They are generally pretty nice guys and my main interest was to help them develop the tools they need to meet higher quality women.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Red Baron View Post
    It helps to have your 1 favorite wingman. Find someone you can work with and who can encourage you. Doesn't mean you have to abandon your friends, but if they're single and won't approach groups you opened, they're idiots
    Have at least 1 guy in the group who will, someone you can count on. Everyone else can sit in the corner if they like to while you meet more girls than they would ever even talk to
    Lol. I'm finding it harder to find a good wingman than it is to find women. But I guess all things take time. I was pretty disappointed at their lack of effort with the women, they have been all talk, no action. I'll hopefully find a good wing soon, maybe someone amongst my friends. I'll be patient with it haha.

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    Default Re: Should I be separating sarging friends and regular friends

    Put a post on here for a local wingman

    And look for pua or other social groups on meetup
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    Default Re: Should I be separating sarging friends and regular friends

    Quote Originally Posted by The Red Baron View Post
    Put a post on here for a local wingman

    And look for pua or other social groups on meetup
    I'll be sure to after I get settled in with my new job! I'm going to be taking a short hiatus while I get adjusted.

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    Default Re: Should I be separating sarging friends and regular friends

    I had this problem recently because I've had a rough month sarging ever since I returned to University, in the summer it was easy, just go solo and have the freedom to open whatever I pleased. Now people have returned and they see me doing what I'm doing and are treating me differently, some just want me to fail, some want to help. Plus the group of people I made good friends with last year have just become boring (apart from my best friends) and it's been hindering my progress.

    So I sat down with my housemates (basically my best friends and one of their girlfriends who's a HB8) and told them the situation. One of my best friends who's also got a girlfriend told me he's going to motivate me (didn't feel motivated recently), find things to do to raise our social value and to keep busy and that he will wing me when we're out and also keep any threats/cockblocks away.

    So what I would say to this is to sit down with some close friends and just discuss it but if you don't have friends like that then it is better off just to not care and separate from them.
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