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    Sinferal is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Need help on how to proceed from here, what does she mean

    The first 4 paragraphs is the history of what's going on. Skip to 5th paragraph for the problem.

    There is this girl (classmate for 3 years) who is my one-itis, we have been friends for around 3 years,around the first year we met, I confessed to her (ruined it by being a total AFC). She told me that I was a very nice guy, we had a lot in common and she is still in love with her ex, lastly she said what will be will be. Knowing I have stepped into the friendzone, I decided to forget about her.

    Luckily, we were in different modules so I did not get a chance to see her everyday like I used too. During this period, she got back with her ex again. So I managed to get her out of my mind, avoiding all contacts, even when we were in the same class again, I kept conversations to minimal.

    Well currently,in Year 3 semster 1 (she broke up with her ex), we are in the same class again, as usual I never spoke to her, however this was the period I learnt about pickup, hence I made some major change in my looks and the way I talk (tone and pauses added). On my birthday, I went to a night club with my friends and she came along. She gave me a hug ( which had never ever happened before, due to the fact that before I was a total AFC, never escalating kino) and the following day, she celebrated my birthday with me out (this sparked up some feelings within me again)

    A month later, we both had a job together. During that 20days, I tried to work on my game of escaping the friendzone, I escalated kino, flirt using push-pull (works like a charm). I started to see lots of IOIs coming from her and kino.

    HERE is the problem, a couple of nights ago, me, my guyfriend and her went to a night club. I have been to her only twice to night clubs and this night was weird. When we were at the bar, we drank and flirt. When going into the dance floor she quickly grabbed my hand and led the way in( this had never happened before). At the dance floor when my guy friend wasn't around, she suddenly hugged me for a full 20seconds without saying anything, after the club she held my hand wherever we went. After which I sent her home and gave her a hug.
    Last night, we went to a club again, we ended early, when sending her home, she didn't want to enter her house as she was a little drunk, so I sat with her and we chat. She started to told me secrets, she never told anyone about it (so I guess this would be where I build rapport with her right?). We chatted for 3 to 4 hours and she never wanted to leave. So I stupidly took this opportunity and confessed to her. She was like, this again? I could see she showed negativity, hence i tried to persuade her. She told me this, this is really not the time for this ( she just rejected one of her close friend about 2 weeks ago). She told me that she didn't felt like she wants to be tied down again ( by the relationship she and her ex had before). I asked her if there would ever be a chance for us to be together, she told me that she cant say yes ( she is afraid she will be giving my false hope ) but then she said she cant say no chance either ( WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? i tried to question her about it, she never give me a proper reply). In the end, she just said that it is not a good time now.

    So how do i proceed from here?
    Thanks for spending your kind attention reading my problem.

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    Shakeshi is offline PUA in Training
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    Default Re: Need help on how to proceed from here, what does she mean

    By telling you that she can neither say yes or no, she is telling you that you
    have the opportunity to seduce her. If she was completely closing the door
    to being with you then she would have told you positively no.

    Do not try to logically explain to her why she should be with you. Do not
    try to get her to explain exactly what she means. The more you talk about
    it the more she will be turned off by the idea of getting together with
    you after just getting out of a relationship. Your job is to seduce with your
    actions rather than your words. Create sexual tension, make her feel
    something for you. Do not explain anything. She needs to be swept
    along with positive emotions. Talking to her about it is putting pressure
    on her to make a choice. Do not pressure her, seduce her.

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    Sinferal is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: Need help on how to proceed from here, what does she mean

    Alright, that's some great advice, I feel better now thanks bro.

    I know this may sound stupid and lazy, but can you give me some advice on building sexual tension or seduction? I think that pickup works in a flowchart like this, attract > building rapport > seduction > close? (Correct me if i am wrong.) Guess i missed out on the seduction part like you mention.

    Thanks a lot for helping, really appreciate it.

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    Default Re: Need help on how to proceed from here, what does she mean

    I never really paid much attention to the flow charts so my approach
    is a little less robotic and more intuitive. Sexual tension
    for me has less to do with what you say than how you say it. Those
    uncomfortable pauses in your conversation where you might
    stare into her eyes just slightly longer than you usual. She might
    say "what are you looking at", in which case your response need
    only be a knowing smile. It can be a touch on her face. Moving
    your face close to her face for moments while you are talking to
    her. When you do this you may even sense that she wants to kiss.
    Also deeper vocal tonality along with slowing down the pace of
    your speech at just the right moments. This is some of what is
    meant by creating sexual tension.
    Last edited by Shakeshi; 10-27-2012 at 07:55 AM. Reason: grammer mistake

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    Sinferal is offline Aspiring PUA
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    Default Re: Need help on how to proceed from here, what does she mean

    Thanks, your advice is golden. Will definitely keep this in mind, time to practice them.

    Other than seducing her, any other things I have to watch out for?

    Thank you for taking your time in helping me in this problem, really appreciate it.
    Last edited by Sinferal; 10-27-2012 at 08:32 AM. Reason: grammar mistake

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    Default Re: Need help on how to proceed from here, what does she mean

    Off the top of my head I would say just work on seducing her
    and giving her positive emotions. She is giving you the time
    to do this as it seems by what you said that you have already
    built plenty of rapport and she is attracted to you.

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    Default Re: Need help on how to proceed from here, what does she mean

    Alright! Thanks for everything! Will work on it!

    The world will be a better place if more people like you exist, so glad I found this site.


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