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Thread: Class difference, how do I deal with it?

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    Default Class difference, how do I deal with it?

    Hey guys,

    This is my second post, and I hope to god I'm putting it in the right spot so I don't tick anyone off. Decided after the occasional lurk in these forums to give it a try and join the community.
    I've been using PUA techniques for about a year now, and I'm currently in Japan. A few mindset differences culture wise, but I'm looking for a general approach to this problem.

    I am a University student here in Japan, and not an exchange student. I applied directly to the university, and was accepted into a sort of backdoor program that would make sure my Japanese is fluent enough to understand lectures. So my techniques are usually about the same in both Japanese and English which gives me a bit of an edge here. Negs can be made in any language, but I try to stick to English because of its positive and pursued image with the Japanese.

    In my time living here, I've been able to meet CEO's and some of the higher class groups. Now, this is not only limited to girls. I've wanted to use my PUA skills to improve my social life, and be able to mingle with these types. However, the one issue I face is very simple.

    Money.
    I am a university student. Which means I'm saving up money, just to pay my university tuition as it comes.
    Now, I have no problem with the short term game. However, I have girls who would invite me to join them on their trip to China (Almost like I can pick out a plane ticket from my wallet anytime like them), which opens them up for a neg from me. They laugh, and as I make it seem like I don't want to go (because I'm broke, but I don't say it lol), it increases my rapport with them, and they just want me to tag along even more. (How do I keep rapport just to say no in the end? I'm still working on this balance...)

    Now, there's only so much you can refuse to go to certain events they go to (due to limitations of my wallet), before they give up on you. Now, usually I'd play my game in a way to get them to pay for me, but in Japanese culture, a favour is returned by two. So in the long run, unpaid dues may be worse for my image.

    I want to know, how would any of you PUAs deal with the difference between lifestyle and money?
    If there's anything wrong with my approach to this problem or my mindset, I am also open to advice!

    Thanks a bunch!

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    Default Re: Class difference, how do I deal with it?

    On your first sentence: don't worry about ticking anyone off. You have a question and that's perfectly fine. You should do, say and think whatever you want. You can't become a good PUA if you're constantly worried about what other people think. You should only please yourself, which in this case means you should post this stuff without worrying about what others think of it.

    I don't understand why you'd want to try so hard to mingle with stuck-up CEOs and "the upper class". They're usually not very nice people and really bump with me and my view on the world. But I guess this is about you.

    On the refusing going to events because you're broke: just tell them. If you keep saying no, they'll think you're not interested in them or just plain boring because you never go anywhere. Instead, if you just tell them you don't have the money, they understand. Hell, they might even pay for you (don't really know their social culture). If you have to do something back for that, they'll know you can't do anything that costs money. It's a major advantage of being honest: everyone knows what the deal is.

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    Default Re: Class difference, how do I deal with it?

    Thank you Virgil for your reply!
    As expected, that helps a ton!

    I just happened to get in on the CEO group through another friend who started his own company. So I might be seeing these guys a number of times. Another CEO I met mentioned he was pretty impressed with my translating so I want to keep that for future employment haha.
    The other group I didn't precisely like, and I can fully understand your view on them.

    Just that post alone gave me a few good things I need to brush up on. The basics: My self-worth and honesty.

    Thanks again Virgil!


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