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    Exclamation PLEASE! Help me out with the HB9!

    Hey guys just a quick background of myself. I am 19, sophomore in college, nevr had a girlfriend, and a virgin

    ^that is why I REALLY need your guys help

    So, I met this slaying hot HB9 at a college party, we were getting along pretty good, I was joking around with her, flirting. Then I sat down on the couch, she came up to me and asked me if I have a girlfriend, I say no then she sits on my lap. Then, she like "lets take a picture" so she pull out her phone, lays back and puts her face next to mine, and as shes taking the picture I kiss her on the cheek, then for the next one she does the same.

    So, the night goes on and the party dies down and I go up to her and tell her I am leaving and that Ill walk her home. Shes like not yet then goes and hangs out with her friends. So a little later I go up to her and tell her Im leaving again and she doesnt come so I just go home and pass out. But I never got her number!

    A couple days go by and I send her a friend request on facebook, and then I tried the poke game. I poked her then she writes on my wall and then this is how it goes...
    HB9: dont poke mee ha
    Me: umm, you poked me first?
    HB9: not a chance...i dont poke people
    Me: aw come on now with the lies :P
    HB9: aww man you caught me :P

    Thats where it ended, I didnt know how to respond so I just left it.

    So, what is my next move!? I really dont want to blow this one, I need this guys, please help me out it will be more than greatly appreciated.

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    Default Re: PLEASE! Help me out with the HB9!

    your next move is to open her again and ask her out on a date what else do u think u should do?
    "The world will never change much less become what you want it to be. The only thing that can change is you. Face your fears, grow stronger and become what you want to be."
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    Default Re: PLEASE! Help me out with the HB9!

    Quote Originally Posted by xavier View Post
    your next move is to open her again and ask her out on a date what else do u think u should do?
    I know that but how do I go about opening to her? What do I say? I really dont want to mess this one up, i want to do everything right.

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    Default Re: PLEASE! Help me out with the HB9!

    Have you read any material? The interaction seems very.....nonchalant. Girls do even more stuff than that when they are not interested in a guy.

    If you had to ask her twice to leave and still walked home alone then you are not as far along with her as you think. Compliance tests are a good way to tell how attracted she is to you and she didn't comply to your request to leave......twice.

    Read up on Mystery Method and focus on building attraction. Oh and a last thought......coming from the mindset that you don't want to mess things up increases the chances of that happening. Even if you didn't mess up, you still may think you did and your behavior will come across as AFC.
    "All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."

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    Default Re: PLEASE! Help me out with the HB9!

    Quote Originally Posted by BatMan View Post
    Have you read any material? The interaction seems very.....nonchalant. Girls do even more stuff than that when they are not interested in a guy.

    If you had to ask her twice to leave and still walked home alone then you are not as far along with her as you think. Compliance tests are a good way to tell how attracted she is to you and she didn't comply to your request to leave......twice.

    Read up on Mystery Method and focus on building attraction. Oh and a last thought......coming from the mindset that you don't want to mess things up increases the chances of that happening. Even if you didn't mess up, you still may think you did and your behavior will come across as AFC.
    Alright, well how do i build attraction? Do i ask her out? I dont have her number only her facebook.

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    Default Re: PLEASE! Help me out with the HB9!

    There are many ways to build attraction. Such as flipping attraction switches. My personal favorite is push/pull. Learn both of these and you'll be unstoppable.

    Asking her out right now is considered high risk/high reward. If you pull it off, then you would have skipped the beginning steps altogether. However, I'm going to assume that she would reject a date right now so I wouldn't do it.
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    Default Re: PLEASE! Help me out with the HB9!

    I'm very much new here but not to game, i've been searching for the new thread tab but cant find one so i decide to post here since we're kinda like in the same hole..mine is opening FB im having total failure nowadays, initially i was great..ok Examples
    Recently:
    Me:Hey i think ur cute & im gonna go ahead and used one of those cheesy pickup lines those weak little guys use on "Your dad must be a thief,cuz he stole the stars and put them in ur eyes" did it work?
    HB9: haha thanx, that was a good one but it didnt really work
    Me:I knew it wouldnt work i wonder why they use them..id prefer sitting you at a table with u facing me, hold hands & hold eye contact and tell you..
    ....Hi

    She never replied from there ever since, i have had like 20 more such experience where after i type the second messages they never reply again..whats wrong with my text? am i missing some few principles in them? I could post more recent examples if it'd help uncover the problem..
    Any help is highly appreciated

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    Default Re: PLEASE! Help me out with the HB9!

    @JohnnyBob:
    Quote Originally Posted by BatMan View Post
    coming from the mindset that you don't want to mess things up increases the chances of that happening.
    Yup. Try opening a few other chicks and running game on girls in class for a day or two until you think: "oh, snap I forgot to game HB9!" - that'll help you get out of the 'don't wanna mess this up' mindset.

    Quote Originally Posted by johnnybob62 View Post
    Alright, well how do i build attraction? Do i ask her out? I dont have her number only her facebook.
    Def don't ask her out - that's a huge IOI from you and it has about a 2% success rate at the angle you've got now. Also if you DHV at this point that too will come off as an IOI, I'd recommend Negging her about her facebook next time she's online. Facebook chat her with something like "I can't believe [comment about her pics, interests, likes, status, etc - then explain what's wrong with it]" - with an HB9 it should catch her interest. Then send her a few more negs/DSQ while you chat, then you start just having a normal (flirty) conversation, and like BatMan says toss in your attraction switches and keep up some push-pull, IOI her when she earns it, IOD when she doesn't, then Number close AFTER she's proven herself (through qualifying/compliance) <- all of this via facebook chat convo


    @Slowbomb
    Quote Originally Posted by Slowbomb View Post
    Examples Recently:
    Me:Hey i think ur cute & im gonna go ahead and used one of those cheesy pickup lines those weak little guys use on "Your dad must be a thief,cuz he stole the stars and put them in ur eyes" did it work?
    HB9: haha thanx, that was a good one but it didnt really work
    Me:I knew it wouldnt work i wonder why they use them..id prefer sitting you at a table with u facing me, hold hands & hold eye contact and tell you..
    ....Hi

    She never replied from there ever since, i have had like 20 more such experience where after i type the second messages they never reply again..whats wrong with my text? am i missing some few principles in them? I could post more recent examples if it'd help uncover the problem..
    Any help is highly appreciated
    IMO you've given too much IOI's to her. I like the direct opener though, but here's how the above pattern breaks down

    You: Direct opener IOI
    Her: response + IOD
    You: IOI

    ...see the problem. After she IOD's give her an IOD (respond short and stop talking) or a Neg (something from her fb page) or a DSQ ("it's probably for the best, you seem like the sweet and innocent type from your page" - or a different one inspired by her page) or a sarcastic LJBF + normal conversation ("what a relief! now we can avoid all those awkward conversations at the wedding when your family (don't say parents or grandma cuz you don't know who's alive at this point) asks me how on Earth I make a living as a unicorn salesman - I only raise them for photos btw, not for meat, I'm a vegan when it comes to unicorns - so anyway LJBF..."

    Personally I like a neg + DSQ + LJBF pattern
    DTF HB's omw 2 LTR


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