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    Default How to recover from an AFC first text?

    So I got this girl's number the other day. She's actually a waitress, and assuming she gave me her real number, I did pretty well considering how often they are hit on. I had been a regular customer and had asked for her a few times. I've done the standard C&F stuff but more importantly, I've built rapport. She's relatively new at her job, and I connected with her by joking about my short-lived experience as a waiter. Anyways, I was looking carefully at her body language when I asked for her number, and she was very happy that I asked and showed no hesitation.

    So she tells me to text her after I get her number. And unfortunately, I did not text her my number immediately at the moment so she would have it. I prefer to call and be more direct, but she had told me to text and did not have my number, so I fell into that "trap".

    To make things worse, I have very limited experience at texting girls, partly because I am more comfortable calling, so the next day I make the fatal mistake of asking some girls at my work to help come up with the initial text. It ends up being quite an AFC text. Pretty much just introduces who I am and expresses my wishes to hang out this weekend, ending with asking if she is available this weekend. It doesn't even include specifics of where I will be.

    So at this point she unsurprisingly does not respond. I don't think I should call. I do have a last ditched effort text lined up, which is packed with confidence, humor, and assertiveness. So really my question here is not what to text back, but the execution of this life support text.

    1) How long should I wait to send this second text after she has not responded to the first text?

    I'm leaning on 3 days. I was smart enough not to text back immediately or reference the first text, so the right wait time along with the content of the second text should have her forgetting about the first text.

    2) I understand the importance of keeping a text short. But I wanted to reference something we talked about in person the other night, to try to bring back memories of more cheerful times. Also making a more colorful text message costs characters. It ends up being around 300 characters (two text messages). So question here is whether I should send this single block of text, or break it up into parts, and time the sending as if I just came up with it on the spot. A spontaneous awesome text is better than a premeditated one. The problem here is it will probably be 3 or 4 text messages. Is that okay?

    Side notes: This girl is not a career waitress, she's in college working part time. Also she's not a HB8-10 by standard terms. She's more a 6-7, but doesn't wear all that make up (at least not while serving). I hate when girls overcake.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Default Re: How to recover from an AFC first text?

    "The wings at your place suck. Please tell me that they're not reheated "

    I found that sometimes something short and light will get her to respond. Also it's something she can relate to. I'd say try something like that and see if she answers. Then go for cocky/funny and close a date?

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    Default Re: How to recover from an AFC first text?

    So here's what I have in mind for my second text(s):

    1st text - "Wow I just had a bright idea "

    2nd text - [Some brief description of an outlandish business plan I conceived relating to a topic of discussion we had]

    3rd text - "By this time next year, we'll be sipping pina colodas on our private island. Let me know when to schedule a meeting, business partner "

    Another thought came up. In that initial text, I had gone straight to asking her to hang out. I used words like "get together". Perhaps this scared her off a bit. Maybe I should not put in the scheduling a meeting part in the last text? Or maybe I should be more assertive and actually schedule out the time and location of this "business meeting"?

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    Default Re: How to recover from an AFC first text?

    Yea you need to build some sort of comfort and attraction. I would leave the meeting out altogether. Seems like you're coming off a little bit needy. Especially the 3rd text dude...by this time next year = clingy. I am sure someone can explain why better than I can but yeah, I would stick away from that.

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    Default Re: How to recover from an AFC first text?

    Meet her causally where she works if you can go on of these days dhv to her and build some confrort/rapport

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    Default Re: How to recover from an AFC first text?

    Gotcha. How about if I changed the third text to something like this:

    "We'll be sipping pina colodas on our private island in no time. A sound plan right? And the guys at the business club always said my ideas were outlandish :-P"

    A little dry humor at the end there never hurts.

    Quote Originally Posted by GiovanniP View Post
    Meet her causally where she works if you can go on of these days dhv to her and build some confrort/rapport
    I don't think I can do that at this point considering she never responded to my first text.

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    Default Re: How to recover from an AFC first text?

    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    Gotcha. How about if I changed the third text to something like this:

    "We'll be sipping pina colodas on our private island in no time. A sound plan right? And the guys at the business club always said my ideas were outlandish :-P"

    A little dry humor at the end there never hurts.



    I don't think I can do that at this point considering she never responded to my first text.
    Is there anyway you could just send 1 text? I know you said it was too long. But think about it, if she doesn't reply, that's 4 texts to 0. It's basically a crash and burn and it would show you tried too hard. I would suggest sending a short funny one...condense it somehow. If she responds then boom, be funny and cocky and then END the text conversation before she does.

    If she ignores you again, then I would take the other advice given. Go to her workplace with a female friend and try to show DHV. This will let her know you have options...women like that.

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    Default Re: How to recover from an AFC first text?

    Ok so if I just send text 1:

    "Wow I just had a bright idea "

    That may be enough to get a response based off intrigue. If not, after 5 minutes, I'll send the second one about the outlandish business plan. Five minutes should give enough time for the girl to respond with "What?" if she's intrigued, but short enough, if she didn't respond, to masquerade as the time I took to type up the idea while distracted or something. If no response after that, it's game.

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    Default Re: How to recover from an AFC first text?

    Quote Originally Posted by Looper View Post
    Ok so if I just send text 1:

    "Wow I just had a bright idea "

    That may be enough to get a response based off intrigue. If not, after 5 minutes, I'll send the second one about the outlandish business plan. Five minutes should give enough time for the girl to respond with "What?" if she's intrigued, but short enough, if she didn't respond, to masquerade as the time I took to type up the idea while distracted or something. If no response after that, it's game.
    A cliffhanger text...I think you should wait more than 5 minutes though. What is she's working/gym/school/sleeping?

    Read this, maybe it will give you a good idea:

    http://www.puaforums.com/how-text-gi...nal-bible.html

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    Default Re: How to recover from an AFC first text?

    Alright so cliffhanger text it is. Wait longer. Only concern is after the failings of the first text, my chances of generating intrigue will be lower. It would have been nice to do this the first text :/


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