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    Default Starting to hate this campus and area

    As said in my threads before, feedback and help is always appreciated and I would like to take this time to thank you for your help in advance.

    Anyway, let me tell you my story so far if I can be afforded your time. After getting mediocre grades at A Level I came to the University of Greenwich to do Engineering in which the course is based in Medway, Kent in the UK. I came to the campus back in September of last year with the hopes of making friends and living a life that was far better than the one of suburban London (which at this point seems a lot better). In light of this move I changed my persona from one of a boring, stale normal teenager and build one that was confident, outgoing, outspoken, arrogant/cocky, funny and controversial.

    In this new persona I was liked a lot on campus by many people. I got along very well with my flat mates and people approached me because I seemed that like-able. I am usually very good at making friends but by time it was November I only had about 20 friends and only a handful where women. I was an AFC back then and was chasing (writing that made me feel sick) this girl, Shantel (TJI) who had recently broke up with my flat mate and one of my best friends. Obviously I didn't make it with her even though we had a lot of sexual tension.

    By time it was December I had a solid friendship group known as "Wolfe Pack" with about 15 members. I was pleased to have this group of friend who shared my philosophy on women at the time and my taste in music but other things we disagreed on such as my love for football and going out clubbing (they despised clubs). Towards the end of 2011 I was getting close with this girl, Helen (NDI) who had a boyfriend but looking back she was always giving me IOIs and she looked up to me. She referred to me as an alpha male and someone who was a lot of fun to be around.

    Roll on to January and it was her birthday, I was responsible for her on the night but things took a turn for the worse when she had drunk too much that she wasn't allow in the club (plus the throwing up in the taxi and all over my shower in my room), so after 3 hours of taking care of her in the cold with people assuming we where a couple because we looked like a good one I took her back to her. I was annoyed and drank heavily and had no memory of the night before and found a condom packet with no condom in my jeans pockets.

    I panicked and went to her to enquire about it (AFC move, I know) and she looked shocked and dropped me as a friend all together, telling everyone I raped her and trying to turn everyone against me. I tried to keep my friends by reverting back to my old nice guy self and they stuck with me, leading me to become the co-leader of this friendship group. Till this day Helen wouldn't talk to me. I became too attached to Wolfe pack and in turn they had a lot of trust in me.

    Fast forward a few months to the summer where I had acquired a job on campus with my best friend, Steve along with other people on campus with whom I made friends. I was now in a LTR with my Ex, Abbey (HB8 and NDI) who I had been seeing since March of 2012. Another girl Sophia (TDI) was giving me a lot of IOIs and told Steve's GF Sonia that she liked my personality and energy. I responded to this by being playing it cool.

    Arguments between me and Abbey about commitment and trust issues ensued to the point where I broke up with her and tried to pursue Sophia. It seemed I was too late as the initial attraction fizzled out and she saw me as a friend. I further screwed this whole thing up by getting insanely drunk, 3 days prior to breaking up with Abbey and expressing my feelings to her (I don't remember this).

    Now I lost girlfriend and my 2nd option, I as pissed off and need to bounce back and with Steve spending most of his night hanging out with his girlfriend, I stumbled across the internet looking for ways I can manage and understand women and that's when I came to the forums. After seeing the forums and learning what to do through reading the Mystery Method and the Game, revising until it was stuck in my head.

    This where my summer and year began to change, I was going out on my own and independently, number closing and kiss closing where possible in clubs just through what MM, the game and the forums had taught me. Then my first f-close with a girl called Amber (HB7) brought my tally of girls I've slept with to 4 (not counting that Helen incident, I refuse to count that). I was on cloud 9 and I wanted to get better so I read into day game and also "Double your dating" and I was approaching people at shops and in malls. My first number close came from Hariett (HB7) who worked at the campus shop. One significant day was when I went to see my brother and my mum at the Westfield mall in Stratford during the Olympics. I was there early and practised my game resulting in 2 number closes.

    Fair to say I had a good summer and I wasn't done there. I started reading "Conquer your campus" just before freshers week. Freshers week was upon us and all my friends had returned from Summer and that's when we starting hitting the campus bar and a couple of clubs. I was on fire, showing all my friends my new skills, approaching at will and leaving other people in utter shock and in total awe of me. I got 12 number closes and 3 kiss closes but most of them where flakes, girls who where drunk or ones I simply didn't want to follow up.

    That's when the doubt amongst my friends started to come in. They criticise and questioned my power and thought I couldn't f-close. Slowly I felt my AA creeping back up and the girls on campus feel almost unapproachable for some reason, I feel like I'm reverting back to my old self and I don't feel calibrated to campus game. That's the point where I got the pandora's box system to once again get better.

    Into October I started to search through some of my old number closes and stumbled upon Hariett who I mentioned before and set up a date with her. It went decent, she still seemed interested and I kinoed well. We texted on and off and we saw each other randomly on campus now and then (she a non-student).

    Halloween came along and I had a party at my friends house which was mainly Wolfe Pack members. I invited Hariett out of pure spontaneity and she came along to which she dressed as a sexy secretary. She got drunk quite quickly at the party and left with her early and I f-closed her at mine. My friends presumed this as I was seen leaving with her holding my hand. This lead to me asserting my dominance and showing everyone including the girls that yes I can get laid and now you can fark off.

    But the talk was still going on and people doing their best effort to undermine me and cause my success to plummet (which involved cock-blocking me when we went out on a mutual friends birthday). I was wondering why I was with these people and how I could do much better anywhere else in the country. Me and Dan had a discussion about this and Dan said "Wolfe pack is a group of social outcast who found people exactly like them and when you have someone with the confidence and power with women like you, you will get a hostile reaction". That's when I started going against the group as a whole, leaving gathering early to meet other people or just to hang out with Steve and Dan in our house. They where saying such things behind my back like "he's changed, he's not being himself with all these psychological techniques" or "he seems very angry these days".

    So now I'm stuck here thinking, what should I do to change this and why the fark did I end up in a group filled with social outcasts apart from the odd few, especially when they're undermining me and calling me rude or mean just because I'm speaking my mind like I did in 2011? I can't move away, not many of the girls here are worth approaching, there's only 3 clubs, the weather is sh1t and everyone is too involved with their own groups of friends that I would seem like a complete outsider if I where to hang out with them.

    Right now I'm reading into speed seduction to ensure of more f-closes in the future and I'm collaborating on ways of combining all my knowledge to bring my own method, but this AA is taking hold of me and right now I'm so flattened that I have no idea what to do. The only thing I'm thinking about doing I telling the Wolfe pack how I feel and just leaving the group all together and just keep my house mates close and going solo again. I need help and I need it soon. I am not the best looking guy in the world but I have never let that stopped me. Any help from the experts and I will be very pleased. Thank you again in advance.
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    Default Re: Starting to hate this campus and area

    There is alot of alcohol in this story lol.

    Sounds like you are in the middle of a metamorphosis. This happened to me a couple of times. Even my own family didn't like what I was becoming. Part of it is them not liking change and holding you back. The other part is true, that you are not yourself and acting like a douche.

    Unfortunately it's part of the metamorphosis. Constantly reading and trying different techniques will have you acting like a complete ass then switching to a soft spoken seducer. Your friends and family will definitely notice, then when they find out its because of pickup they will resent it like it's a cult. (It has the potential to be one lol)

    It even affected my coworkers. They honestly hated me for awhile because I was so openly cocky with them and about pickup. Then I discovered the power of being humble and they started to love me. It's a crazy journey to find what works for you.

    But out of all your hard work, you will get to a place where things are automatic. That you start to read less. You even start to not hit on every girl you see because it's not about testing yourself anymore, but being comfortable with yourself and finding that partner that you deserve (if you ever get over ONS and fuck buddies lol.) Then you realize that pickup is not the end all be all, but a part of it, and end up with your own personal style of game.

    Let me finish this by saying that this is just my opinion and that I don't claim to be an expert. So this may sound like good advice, but sometimes I just talk out of my ass and just know how to make it look like I know what I'm talking about lol.
    "All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."

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    Default Re: Starting to hate this campus and area

    sounds like you "showed off" a bit too much, people will resent you for being "better than them" they wish they had those skills and the fact that they are jealous says it all. your progressing, but you don't need to openly "show off" in front of them. they will notice without you bragging. you either need to be "low profile" when your around them, or find another group to associate with. moving is always an option, but when your new to a school your at the bottom of the food chain because we all know that college game is all about having social circles.

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    Default Re: Starting to hate this campus and area

    Yes I acknowledge that I did show off but not in a horrible way, it was subtle. During the freshers week and when at the clubs, I just peeled off and approached without them knowing, they just saw me doing it. At the party where I f-close I just saw it as an opportunity to continue gaming this girl. It's not my fault that they're jealous of me because they have their fears and anxieties, I even offered to help them out but they threw it back in my face. I'm just done with them guys.
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    sounds like you need to find another social circle that will be more accepting of your pua skills. maybe try joining a fraternaty this coming spring semester

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    But here's my problem: There's nothing like that going around on campus, this is horrible campus, almost nothing happens, the Union bar is a load of shit which closes early :/
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    Default Re: Starting to hate this campus and area

    damn and i though my campus was bad. have you thought about coming to the u.s. ? but it would probably be cheaper to go somewhere else in the u.k. if you do decide to change colleges linkingx goes to a college somewhere in the u.k.


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