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    Default Re: RB - Frame control

    Yeah thats great stuff.

    Another time she asked me where i get my confidence from (i had been acting particularly arrogant lol) and i ran my 'had a love interest who broke my heart' routine. Seemed to go over well, like she didnt expect me to be sensitive or whatever (she gave a priceless shocked look lol) but its true what i said before... HB8 is too immature for me anyway
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    Default Re: RB - Frame control

    HOw do you guys remain cool/calm/collected when girls or people challenge your frame?

    I automatically go into defense argue mode when ppl challenge me and say stuff;

    Im really sensitive though; :/

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    Default Re: RB - Frame control

    lol yea its hard to deal with emotions at first. We all feel you on that one. I think I speak for everyone here when I say that.

    Basically, always be joking.

    Always be joking

    Always be joking.

    That means always be smiling.

    And, never letting yourself seem bothered by anythign makes you seem very powerful.

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    Default Re: RB - Frame control

    I don't know how I missed this post. And I didn't feel like reading through 32 responses, so my response is directly to Red Barons initial post.

    I always liked your style Red Baron. And your ideas on frame control reflect mine completely. You are 100% right. Most guys fall right into their frame, but then there's others (such as beginner PUAs) that NEVER let up on the frame control so they don't progress forward with a woman.

    When you said that you eventually told them your name after they jumped through some of your hoops, that's exactly how it should be. Beginners would keep going and using the same old stale frame games instead of keeping it fresh. Plus they think that you should NEVER let up and give in. It's not even about giving in. It's about EARNING you. If they work for it, then why not give them what they want. Great post man.
    "All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth."

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    Default Re: RB - Frame control

    Quote Originally Posted by cire113 View Post
    HOw do you guys remain cool/calm/collected when girls or people challenge your frame?

    I automatically go into defense argue mode when ppl challenge me and say stuff;

    Im really sensitive though; :/
    One way is by flipping the topic.

    Her: "Does that line work on all the girls you try it on?"

    You:"I dunno...Does your attitude attract any guys? Cause i didnt see any around when i came over."

    This may sound confrontational, but you have to say it in a nonchalant, kidding way. Its a VERY strong comeback so only use it if u feel she has a particularly strong shield up.

    If u have a problem being defensive, before u go out sarging simply look in the mirror and repeat somthing like,"i am cool calm relaxed. No one's opinion can affect that. I will not take anything personally."
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    Default Re: RB - Frame control

    Batman your definately right. Frame control is about push pull. You cant just totally dominate the situation and be a guarded controlling jerk. Rob Judge once did a text message analysis of a guy who texted a girl and made her guess something too. Only he made her keep going and going without giving her any hints or giving her teh answer or anything, and eventually she got bored and probably felt like the guy was a controlling creep. You definately want to make them comform to your frame a little, but then yes, you reward them for doing so. Without that positive reinforcement why would she be playing along?

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    Default Re: RB - Frame control

    This is an incredibly insightful thread. Excellent job

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    Default Re: RB - Frame control

    Been watching alot of james bond lately lol. Master of frame control!

    Check out this one i adapted (use for a flakey girl... one who gives IOI's but rarely hangs)

    "Look, i think your cute... and for some guys, thats the whole world... but for me the world is not enough."
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    Default Re: RB - Frame control

    So here goes a doubt about a conversation.

    Her: what do you study?
    Me: I study advanced techniques of heterosexual escort
    Her: fuck, be serious
    Me: guess
    Her: the cards don't tell me
    Me: pero que no te entiendo, do you read tarot in your free times?
    Her: I do loads of cold reading
    Me: you're a jack of all trades, if you surf, I'll do a wireless cold reading to your hand and say that you'll be a fine lawyer
    Her: looooool what a nasty thing. but now that you know everything I do, are you going to tell me what you study, or do I have to write you a letter?

    (now I took 2 hours to answer)

    Me: send the request to the economics department
    Her: ahhhhhhh I love economics, that's one of my favourite classes. but do you study economics or something else more specific?
    Me: there are management and economics. I study economics. Why do you like economics?
    Her: don't know, maybe because it's one of the most practical classes that I have. moreover, we talk about the real world economics. it's interesting.


    Soooo, my doubt is, did I give in to her frame, or did I mantain my frame until she passed through my hoops an then rewarded her?

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    Default Re: RB - Frame control

    I think you did fine. She asked again, you waited. These weren't really black and white tests, but you're still good. She was pressing you for information and showing an investment in the conversation

    Controlling doesn't mean you have to avoid answering, it just means you control the tone and answer how and when you want to
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