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    Default Re: Help to find out if girl is truly interested or not!?!

    There is obviously something going on outside of her being into you. Either the depression or her dog problems or whatever but there is definitely something keeping her from being involved with another guy right now.

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    Default Re: Help to find out if girl is truly interested or not!?!

    Hey so I was thinking of writing this funny message asking her out tomorrow. I'll write the proposed message out below and you can tell me your opinions. Bear in mind I am paying her out in the text based on things she has told me about herself. The other day she said she was having a "sooky introvert day, which I am good at" those are her words. And also she is a Vegans and we catch up alot in a vegan restaurant so that is included in there. Anyway here is the message I want to send her tomorrow. Let me know if there is anything wrong with it.

    Me: "Hey lil' Jesse. How is my favorite little vegan introvert going? I'm not sure if I can make it to Vege house" ( Cafe we go to) "tonight for a few reasons but think you and me are going to have to catch up. I think we already screwed our plans up good last week. But if you want that cup of coffee and drive in my car I offered you" ( I've jokingly offered to teach her to drive my car and she always asks) Anyway, I keep going on to say "if you want that cup of coffee and drive in my car I offered you this weekend might be a good time to do if you're keen? Seriously hope you're still feeling better and let me know about the offer I just made, while it still stands Anyway. Take care sweetie xx"

    Now does this message have the write amount of confidence and humor to come off as funny and interesting without being needy. I basically am doing my best to fully hint I am still interest and giving her the chance to initiate back but also trying to put out an air of confidence that if she doesnt want to it wont really affect my pride or ego. Please bare in mind my skills with women are not as could as I wish so I really need advice to get into a better game frame, excuse the dozens of questions. Maybe this post will one day help someone else in a similar situation. So let me know if that's a cool kind of message or if anything is wrong with it or whether it needs to be simplified or somesh1t. Thanks again for the quick response. Sorry I seem to write essays but I appreciate the compliment too. Let me know your suggestions. Cheers guys - Sam

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    Default Re: Help to find out if girl is truly interested or not!?!

    Hey weimerjl . What are you trying to say in that reply? You think she might be seeing other guys or something? Can you please clarify what you mean? It is hard to understand what you are exactly trying to say. Also guys get back to me on whether the text message I want to send is good or sh1t!

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    Default Re: Help to find out if girl is truly interested or not!?!

    you're still asking her to spend time with you, if you can make it not like you're asking her and include the part of "while it still stands " that will be good

    and essays are good because it gives us an idea of what's going on, other than "heres a story...i want xyz and ive done this"

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    Default Re: Help to find out if girl is truly interested or not!?!

    Yea i would change the msg slightly, like hyp said you are still asking her.

    I think what weimerjl is trying to say is that there is definitely an "external interrupt" such as her depression,etc but I dont believe he means that she must be seeing someone else.

    Quick question Moernmachine. Are you from South Africa?

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    Default Re: Help to find out if girl is truly interested or not!?!

    I do have Family from South Africa and some from England. I was born in Scotland and live in Australia now! This bitch is a fucking head case. I invited her out on the weekend and she flakes again! I sent her a message all pissed off and haven't heard a thing from her since. I am pretty sure she isn't going to contact me now because she probably thinks I am pissed off at her. If somebody flakes on you for nearly the 3rd time. Is that safe to say she is just not interested despite a load of IOI's given. I mean if a girl is really interested is it possible they will flake multiple times. Or would that not happen. Pretty close to giving up on any hope of friendship with this girl let alone anything else. Does is sound like there is a good way to approach this if it is worth it. I do not want to come across as annoying or needy. My friends think I have misread the signals and although they agree she showed some kind of attraction towards me it was never strong enough. Hence the constant flaking. Would there be a game plan possible if she flaked again on the weekend then I sent her an annoyed text but haven't heard from since. I mean I totally told her off for doing that and called her rude. She never even sent an apology for what she did. Completely wasted my time again. Unfortunately I still think she is pretty damn cute and despite hooking up with other chicks on the weekend I still want to pursue thus girl. Is there any suggestions on how to handle it. Really losing patients and getting my head done in. If I were to eventually pull this off though. would be pretty fucking clever of me. I like the challenge if anything but not sure how to reinitiate or whether to freeze her out and whether there are any anti-flake plans I could use next time. Any suggestions guys?

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    Default Re: Help to find out if girl is truly interested or not!?!

    I mean I totally told her off for doing that and called her rude.
    3 flakes is enough, even 1 flake (if she stands you up) is suitable to tell her the same

    maybe reading this will provide an insight

    http://www.puaforums.com/ask-expert/...html#post73478

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    Default Re: Help to find out if girl is truly interested or not!?!

    I disagree with you Moernmachine, do not call out on a girl who flakes. If you have read "Mystery Method" you will find that Mystery explains never call out on a girl who is a flake. Rather just call up another girl and forget about the whole thing. And yes I know that is hard to do, when you like her as much as you do. I actually got pissed recently because a girl flaked on me and I told her off. She ended up wanting to date me. But anyways Mystery's advice, is not to call her on it. Another thing is, a good rule of thumb that I have read about from PUAs is if three times, she doesn't go with you, you can forget that number permanently.

    Just move on man, she has issues, because she is dealing with depression. If she senses that you are rejecting her, and having fun, she will chase you. But either way, you owe it to your self esteem, to be with woman who won't flake on you so much.

    Speaking of flakes, I had a Christmas party last night and my date flaked on me half hour before the party. Not cool. I should have known better, she is notorious for flaking on her friends. She flaked also on my birthday. I kept asking her for 2 weeks, asking if she was sure she was coming. She always said yes. Then last second text says she's not. I could have had so many other woman to take and I ask a flake. Dumb! Anyways she sends me a message today, saying how sorry she is, etc etc. Yea BS. I just ignored it. I am half hearted tempted to delete her off of facebook.

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    Default Re: Help to find out if girl is truly interested or not!?!

    Hyp wanted my take on this. I didn't read this whole thing because I didn't need to. I quickly gathered what I needed to know.

    Moernmachine, you talk too much and lack what it takes. You've had opportunity after opportunity and made mistake after mistake, but they weren't AFC ones. I've seen naturals make the same ones as you. You couldn't make the move when you needed to and you didn't walk away when you should have.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm all for blaming the girl, but only after you've exhausted every possible resource, of which you haven't. It's not her, it's you.

    Have you ever seen Troy? It's like that scene in the beginning where the boy comes and wakes Achilles up to fight, and the boy says, "He's the biggest man I've ever seen. I wouldn't want to fight him." And Achilles replies, "That is why no-one will remember your name."

    You've got to know when to pull the trigger and you've got to know when to fold.

    Now go watch Troy.
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    Default Re: Help to find out if girl is truly interested or not!?!

    I disagree with you Moernmachine, do not call out on a girl who Flakes. If you have read "mystery method" you will find that Mystery explains never call out on a girl who is a Flake
    ill admit i still haven't read the MM even though i should've so i'll get around to that pronto, but if you never call a girl out how will she know that you're not going to take her sh1t?

    i get that going for another girl is a solution to her and shows you're not waiting around, but the behaviour from her shouldn't be tolerated as far as i see it, unless someone dies


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